Parents speak out on Ardmore schools' performance in local ad

By: Teddy Safo Email
By: Teddy Safo Email

ARDMORE, Okla. -- Ardmore Schools are facing criticism that comes in the form of an advertisement put out by one local group. Teddy Safo has the story.

With kids returning from the holiday break on Monday, school has definitely been on parent's minds this week, but some local concerned citizens are trying to put school performance on everyone's mind with a very vocal newspaper ad.

Members of “Ardmore Neighborhood Schools” say, based on the school’s academic performance last year, the schools are in serious trouble

"I believe that it’s due to the best teachers leaving the system and the best students going to other schools," says Elmer Hoyle, with the group “Ardmore Neighborhood Schools”.

Ardmore’s total score on the Academic Performance Index (API) in math and reading is 1146, the lowest in Carter County. Lone Grove schools had the second best in Carter County at 1347.

Elmer Hoyle blames the difference in scores on Ardmore school administrators

"They ignore the signs of deterioration."

Now members of the Ardmore Neighborhood Schools committee recently took out an ad in the local paper which says in bold print, “Ardmore schools are in serious trouble,” they say because of underperformance. However, administrators say those numbers do not tell the whole story.

Administrators say the performance numbers do not take into consideration Ardmore’s school size, which includes school attendance, and several of their school programs like 'English Learners Language,’ which several of the area schools don’t have.

Officials say despite those numbers, Ardmore’s middle school numbers have improved drastically over the last three years

"Together with our teachers and our parents we have over come that deficit by 290 points," Ardmore school administrator Ron Beach says.

Ardmore’s graduation rate sits at 71%. Even though they would like to see those numbers go up, administrators say 46% of their students that graduate complete college, which is the highest in Carter County.


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  • by Jess on Jan 21, 2008 at 09:24 AM
    How could a black teacher/coach change what is going on at Ardmore. If they are good teachers then it shouldn't matter what race they are. There are plenty of coaches with championships under their belts that are of every race/color/etc. Why make it a racial issue. Dumb Dumb.
  • by Sasha Location: Ardmore on Jan 21, 2008 at 08:10 AM
    The problem with the Ardmore School system is there are not enough black teachers. You need black faces around so they can have role models. Ms. Mosley is an excellent teacher and a good role model. She does not favor the black students, she treats all of her students the same, EQUALLY!What I am saying is the students feel they are not being treated equally, and I tend to agree.The fooball and basketball teams will not win another championship until you get black head coaches for both. The board might say they cannot find qualified people, but if they LOOK and STOP playing this buddy, buddy stuff they will find someone, the right one.
  • by Sue Location: Plainview Parent on Jan 20, 2008 at 08:49 AM
    My kids have attended Plainview Schools for 7 years. Plainview has its pros and cons.my son plays HS FB. The surrounding school's students, are well disciplined, polite children. Add some B & C teams. Get kids busy! At PV if a kid misbehaves they are sent home,they do their work and eat their lunch in a room with the counselor. Support the teachers and principles. If a kid is continually called in the office for disciplin, HE GOES HOME. Parents have to say, "yes my child should be punnished and I am going to stand behind what the school decides to do". If every parent backed up the teachers, the disrespectful behavior would stop. The discipline has to start at home. Kids get into trouble at PVHS, rich, poor, black, white or green! They All GO HOME to spend time with their MOM & DADS if they can't behave. Teachers, Principals, & School Board can't do anything without parent support and integrity. Where did respect for elders go?
  • by betty Location: Lone Grove on Jan 10, 2008 at 01:39 PM
    You know Amy you are right. But again plainview is just as bad. If you don't have money there you are a nobody. But I took my kids out of Ardmore school for about the same reasons AMY did. My kids don't have the problem at Lone Grove School, PLUS you have teachers there that care. I would say that the Vice-priciple needs to be the priciple and Nolan go down the road along with the Superintendent too. other then that my kids are not afraid to walk the hallways.
  • by Amy Location: Lone Grove on Jan 10, 2008 at 01:27 PM
    It is pretty bad when you have a priciple who is afraid to step out of his office to enforce the rules. I went into Ardmore High School last year and went to the bathroom. The guy that was standing in the bathroom was smoking dope. I went and reported this and the priciple didnt have me to take to me about the matter. Instead one of the teacher heard me and this person went to check the cameras to see who it was. The needs to get his head out of his butt and do his job. Needless to say I took my children out of Ardmore school and now I drive back and forth to Lone Grove School. My kids are not afraid to go to the bathroom anymore. They can walk down the hallway and not worry about someone putting a knife or a gun in their back. The teachers at Ardmore school is even afraid of their students. I could say what is wrong at Ardmore school and you good parents know what is wrong. If the priciples and teachers don't get control of Ardmore school then I am afraid of what the future will be.
  • by HERE Location: GONE on Jan 10, 2008 at 06:57 AM
    YES SOMETHING SHOULD HAVE HAPPEND THE KIDS DRINKING AND THE PRINCIPAL SHOULD MAKE SURE WHY THE KIDS ARE NOT COMING TO CLASS AND TEACHERS MAKE SURE THE KIDS MAKE UP THERE WORK IF YOU HAVE A STUDENT BEING DISRUPTIVE THEN PUT HIM IN DETENTION FOR DAYS SO THE STUDENTS THAT WANT TO LEARN CAN LEARN. AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO WORK TOGETHER AND NOT AGAINST EACH OTHER.
  • by Jess on Jan 9, 2008 at 09:18 AM
    This is a surprise?! Ardmore parents threw a fit over the basketball girls getting expelled for "too long" whenever they were caught drinking on school time and they were underage at that. The kids aren't learning the consequences of anything and you want to blame the school. Nobody points a finger at the kids. You can teach them everything you want to and it's up to THEM if they want to learn or not.
  • by Anonymous on Jan 9, 2008 at 07:11 AM
    The problem with the Ardmore Schools is a total lack of discipline. Ask any teacher or one who substitutes. The children who desire to learn cannot because of unruly students who curse, assault other students or staff, turn over desks inside the classroom, and generally display a total disprespect for others. Those in charge of the schools are then lax, or sometimes simply refuse to discipline these problem students. We have great teachers and subs, but a serious problem with the overall administration of the Ardmore Schools.
  • by Republican in Ardmore Location: Ardmore on Jan 8, 2008 at 09:56 PM
    I say its time for Dr. Carr to resign her position as superintendent. She has failed the citizens of Ardmore. Ardmore is not the place for you anymore, Dr. Carr, especially when you make over $100,000 a year and have nothing to show for it. And too, how can the administrators say that scores have improved over 3 years and Ardmore still ranks 10th in the county. I guess the administration feels that 10th place in the county is good enough for Ardmore students. I believe the report and the accusations made by the Ardmore Neighborhood Schools Committee about Admore being in serious trouble, especially when you have Springer, Wilson, Fox, and Healdton schools scoring better than a district that has the same or more of the advantages as Plainview, the highest ranking school in the county. I feel that teachers do all they can to teach the student, but the principles on up have failed in supporting the teachers. That is one of the reasons why teachers leave ACS and the pay being another.
  • by AHS_grad Location: ardmore on Jan 8, 2008 at 07:08 PM
    Requirements for being on the Ardmore Neighborhood School Committee ... 1) Must be over 70 years old, 2) No decedents in Ardmore City Schools, 3) Must have chip on shoulder (a big one), 4)Must have a passion for spreading negativity.
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