New study shows possible energy shortages coming

By: Kristen Shanahan Email
By: Kristen Shanahan Email

GRAYSON COUNTY, TX -- Last summer was the hottest on record and as the temperatures heat up this summer officials are asking you to conserve energy.

Officials with "The Electric Reliability Council of Texas" say they expect o see a jump in power outages over the next few years because of the state's long, hot summers and population growth.

A report released today shows that if residents do not cut back their usage, the state will not have enough electricity in 2022.

ERCOT says they are trying to come up with new ways to prevent potential shortages.

"The Public Utility Commission of Texas is reviewing options associated with potential market changes to assent more generation development," Warren Lasher, ERCOT's Director of System Planning, said.

ERCOT says the most important thing you can do to help is to cut back on electricity use in the peak hours during the summer.

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  • by Anonymous on Jun 8, 2012 at 01:03 PM
    Apparently, according to the Global Warming Cultists, coal use is the reason global warming has halted in the last decade plus. Chinese coal plants, burning high sulfur coal now banned in the US and most other industrialized nations, is said to be responsible for declining global temps and growing ice coverage in the Arctic. Others have made the case that in fact, the reason global temps rose in the previous decades was due to the phase out of sulfur bearing coal burning. I don't don't know about anyone else, but I find that to be hilarious. By banning high sulfur coal to save the planet, we have produced global warming endangering the planet and only the Chinese who don't give a hoot about the planet are saving us from global warming calamity! You want cooler temps? Support the use of high sulfur coal found right here in OK and TX! Yeah, you will get acidic rain, but stuff happens.... Before you start with the 'temps are at all time highs', look it up. No one is denying it anymore. Just because a temporary anomaly in the jet stream gave us a warm winter and spring here in the US is no indication of the overall globe where temps are in decline overall.
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      by Logic on Jun 11, 2012 at 09:54 AM in reply to
      Arctic ice has BEEN in retreat for 30 years and, due to the melt, has opened new shipping lanes NEVER available until just the past ten years. I need you to provide us all some links to this "increasing ice" in the Arctic and overall global cooling. You don't expect to just come on here and contradict an entire scientific communities research by typing a few words do you?! Care to explain ocean PH levels while you are at it? I'd love to hear your excuse on that!
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        by Anonymous on Jun 11, 2012 at 11:44 AM in reply to Logic
        No it isn't! You have no idea what you are talking about on any subject. What amazes me is that you have access to the internet and don't bother to look up the facts before you try to correct people. Arctic ice is at a 15 year high (some say 12) and has delayed several big oil exploration efforts this year. KXII didn't post my response to your earlier drivel, but everything you wrote in the post about alternatives is factually incorrect or ridiculously ill informed. Here's the first search responses of thousands....and both are liberal biased sites just to make it easy for you to follow...,0,7450238.story Global cooling....
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          by Logic on Jun 11, 2012 at 04:11 PM in reply to
          Nope. One link is dead and the other is hilariously wrong. Check this out: That shows a 30 year chart of arctic ice on the page. Still not buying your global cooling. Yes we still get winter from time to time. Sometimes very hard. But never as long and the ice disappears now in a month. No sustained ice growth..certainty nothing that lasts during the summer and NOTHING to the levels just 10 years ago. Try again.
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          by Anonymous on Jun 11, 2012 at 06:22 PM in reply to
          Did you not notice that the graph you linked to confirms what I said even though it doesn't include 2012 which is the highest extent measured in 10 years? 2012 Arctic Ice extent exceeded the assumed 'norm' of '78 to '99 . First of all, records only go back to sat observations beginning in 1978, a time when climatologists were predicting a coming Ice Age. Now you folks like to use that 20 year period as the 'norm' instead of using a linear average because when viewed that way, the loss of Arctic ice is relatively insignificant, the 30 year average doesn't get one nearly as anxious which is the intent. But 2012 reached that two decade 'norm', and that means nothing? You sure don't want to include it in the running average.....I wonder why? Maybe because it brings the graph lines closer, in fact brings the line within the two decade range? Maybe for the same reason that some claimed a loss of 75 percent of Arctic ice a couple of years ago by taking the greatest winter number and comparing it to the lowest summer number-- which is just a plain lie. The variance has never exceeded 20 percent in comparative months. Saying Arctic ice is at an all time low is just plain false. Maps from the 1900's and 1930's and submarine surveys in the late '50's show that Arctic ice extent has been similar to if not lower in previous years and recovered within a few years with absolutely no evidence of anthropomorphic contributions. It may be over your head, but try Anthony Watts' blog for some real science that contradicts your faith in the GW cult.
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          by Logic on Jun 12, 2012 at 02:49 AM in reply to
          My final word on the subject. A short video of satellite photos taken every year since 1979: Do you notice how each year the ice grows, but seldom reaches the levels it was the year before? And as you can CLEARLY see the TOTAL amount is diminishing. You have given me NO PROOF that the TOTAL ice is growing and coming back. You are simply pointing to winter and saying it was cold!
  • by Logic Location: Germany on May 31, 2012 at 06:23 AM
    Meanwhile in Germany last Friday and Saturday they set a world record for energy produced from Solar Power...22 Gigawatts or equal to 22 Nuclear Power Plants operating at full capacity! Their renewable energy investments are now beginning to reap ones!! And this was accomplished during PEAK HOURS during the business day! To read more on this wonderful news, and proof that significant power from renewables is not only possible, but actually being accomplished in countries without the anti-renewable lobby present, read the article here:
  • by Logic on May 29, 2012 at 06:17 AM
    In Texas, the wholesale price for electricity is tied to natural gas under the state's deregulation law. Coal for years costs less than gas to generate, so coal plants could produce at a lower cost and sell at the higher gas price. Companies like White Stallion Energy Center milked this system for years, despite the EPA AND Court Orders for upgrades starting 8 YEARS AGO! In 2004 they gave 2005 they gave excuses...they knew the rules were coming. They chose to milk their lignite coal plants for every dime and not reinvest to upgrade their facilities. The EPA did not make these business decisions. They did. So now that the laws are coming into effect, and after 8 years of advance warning and lack of reinvestment, they blame the EPA? They bet on natural gas remaining more expensive so they could that gas is CHEAPER than coal they are losing millions...and suddenly find the EPA upgrades "expensive"...when they could have done the upgrades years ago when gas WAS higher and the profits were there. Stupid buisness decisions cannot be blamed on the EPA. Most companies in the nation have complied and these EPA rules will have no effect. Ahhh but Texas...where coal plants were allowed to reap huge profits because of deregulation find themselves trying to play catch up! And power lines kill thousands of times more birds each year than wind farms...and I suppose always will as long as we have an open power grid! Mute point there...
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      by Anonymous on Jun 7, 2012 at 09:33 AM in reply to Logic
      Wow, Germany must be thriving with all that renewable energy! Uh, no, they aren't. Germany is going the way of Spain, the previous leader in renewable energy. Outages, unsustainable costs, outsourcing of production all tied to this idiocy. How can a point be 'mute'?
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        by Logic on Jun 8, 2012 at 04:06 PM in reply to
        So shortsighted... Do you not realize that Germany now gets the equivalent of 22 Nuclear Power plants worth of power during peak usage times? That means that, for a while, the coal plants can idle down while the sun takes over. That is the point. Has always BEEN the point and will always BE the point. NOT A SINGLE PERSON believes that solar alone can sustain a countries energy supply. Nobody. Obviously you have winter months with extended cloud cover AND you have nighttime every 12 hrs! must think people pushing FREE power are idiots don't you? And unsustainable costs?! Where you get that from? Once the cells are in place it requires a guy with some windex to wipe the bugs off and that's about it? And the manufacturing costs are dwindling every year! Remember when a VCR costs $1,000? Same with solar technology. What will your excuse be when they get as cheap as a cellphone to make...and as abundant? We are planning on installing some in August on our place. That and the windmill from Home Depot and we'll be paying more at Jack in the Box a month than on to people that already do this and ask how much they dropped their electric bill! And that really is the whole POINT of the SUPPLEMENT your energy needs, particularly locally. I challenge you to find someone seriously advocating a renewable only policy! That really IS lunacy and if THAT is the standard you are placing, then I am likely closer to YOUR position on the matter! LOL!
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      by Logic on Jun 8, 2012 at 04:13 PM in reply to Logic
      Oh..and you realize that energy can be stored correct? Imagine panels EVERYWHERE. Like along highways and on top of every building. Germany now has about 2% available utilization, but getting 22 gigawatt peaks now. Imagine when they are generating a MILLION gigawatts for about 6-8 hrs a day? Imagine a MILLION nuclear power plants worth of power getting stored in immense, underground battery farms where it is redistributed? There is no limit to the power from the sun...just needs another panel to capture it. And the panels are getting more efficient every year...and cheaper..and more abundant. I hope you are still here in 10 years....can't wait really.
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        by Anonymous on Jun 11, 2012 at 11:55 AM in reply to Logic
        Did you even read the article detailing the German energy policy disaster? Are you familiar with what happened to Spain's aggressive alternative policy? They are the leaders in the world and ruin is all it brought them. They have few natural resources beyond coal, and even they can't find a way to make alternatives viable. You have completely jumped the shark on the discussion with your astoundingly ignorant comments. Windmills are 'free'? Take you purchase price, installation costs, maintainance, repairs and amortize that over the expected lifespan of the windmill. Divide that by the KWH produced. From that, subtract the costs per KWH the rest of us pay....yes, people who think they get 'FREE' energy are idiots. You will pay twice as much for your 'Free' energy if you are lucky. Store massive amounts of energy in batteries? SERIOUSLY?! That's almost as stupid as the experts solution, pump water into holding ponds to operate hydroelectric generators...sounds cost efficient, doesn't it? Just turn on a nuke plant when you need extra volts? Don't you know what a massive undertaking it is to shut down and start up a nuke plant? And if you have one, why would you not use it to full capacity in the first place since it's one of the least expensive producers? Are you eight years old, or are you somehow 'differently abled'? You need to come out of your fantasy world where facts apparently don't matter. Solar and wind are inherently unreliable and expensive, requiring back up systems and storage capacity that makes them obviously, LOGICALLY, inefficient and uncompetitive with gas, coal, nukes and they NEVER will be anything but uncompetitive for those reasons alone, even if the other costs go down by more than half! Really, debating with you makes me feel bad. Sort of like poking the monkey in the cage with a stick. I have got to learn to laugh and move on.
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          by Logic on Jun 11, 2012 at 04:17 PM in reply to
          Lots of personal insults (typical of the right wing) but NOTHING you wrote in all that contradicts the FACTS of what Germany is experiencing. Yes BATTERIES...not car batteries...but lithium power blocks that store power. Germany invented them. They are being installed as we speak man. They will store excess power from the cells and provide consistent power even during cloudy days. You think so small. It effects your ability to see great change happening in front of you. You probably are thinking "car battery"...LOL!
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          by Logic on Jun 11, 2012 at 04:31 PM in reply to
          Here's a company that makes the batteries that store solar power: I suggest you begin researching industrial grade power storage, or "batteries" if that makes the concept easier to understand. Just the past 6 MONTHS have yielded incredible millions of solar panels on every available surface until you can capture the entire countries power needs for about 6-8hrs per day. Store the power and distribute it evenly. Regardless of WHATEVER you say here, the Reuters article I posted was from last week...22 gigawatts....the "batteries" are being installed now...6 months from now you dine on crow! I'll be here...
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          by Anonymous on Jun 11, 2012 at 05:38 PM in reply to
          Lithium batteries? Do you know how rare lithium is (300 per lb US) and how expensive they are? Try buying a lithium battery for a drill gun---100 bucks plus in some cases, lithium batteries to power a car a couple of dozen miles can cost upwards of 20 grand and you want to power a city, a nation with lithium batteries! HA! What Germany is experiencing is potential collapse from high energy prices and brownouts leading to increased outsourcing to coal burning nations. Did you even bother to read the article on the subject? Wow, you are one delusional individual...
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          by Logic on Jun 12, 2012 at 10:40 AM in reply to
          Pardon me for having to spoon feed every detail to you. They are Lithium alloys...and various other metals. I am not going to break it down to the molecular level for you either. Just use your brain a sec...germanies goal is to build TWICE the number of solar panels actually needed to maintain power and keep the excess stored in these batteries. AND at the same time supplement that with wind and biomass...even the new geothermal technology you ignored a few articles past. EVERYTHING cuurently known to science and new technology they are developing now...particularly in power storage. Their goal is to get to 50% renewables by 2025 with NO brownouts due to over storage capacity. The sad part is you get to see it happen every year kicking and screaming...but really why? Don't you want to get off the exhaust pipe?
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          by Anonymous on Jun 12, 2012 at 08:26 PM in reply to
          Complete delusion. Abject. Put down the pipe and seek help.
  • by Anonymous on May 23, 2012 at 03:44 PM
    This story is about the EPA forcing the shut down of several coal fired plants in TX in a little over a year. Unless the rule is changed, 11,000 megawatts will go off line. Coal is by far the least expensive source of generating fuel, but the EPA rules are forcing shut downs or the use of much higher and expensive grades of coal, thereby creating shortages of capacity and increasing costs. Stop the EPA and the issue is resolved. In addition to driving up costs, they continue to make TX and OK coal mines worthless because our coal does not meet the new standards.
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      by We have a solution on Jun 8, 2012 at 05:51 AM in reply to
      Natural gas can fill the gap and there is more natural gas in this country than you can shake a stick at.
  • by Me on May 23, 2012 at 01:58 PM
    It's the end of the world as we know it
  • by Bob Location: Sherman on May 23, 2012 at 11:01 AM
    This is insane!! Commercial customers are paying outrageous delivery fees. With respect to the cost of natural gas, electricity cost are higher now then they were before deregulation. Utilities keep asking for rate increases. A very few are getting rich and not spending a dime on infrastructure improvements!!
  • by Joe on May 23, 2012 at 08:33 AM
    I see a rate hike coming.
  • by big bad wolf on May 23, 2012 at 06:53 AM
    All they have to do is get the wind to blow harder and longer--- problem solved. I suggest building a Natural Gas generator near these giant windmill farms to power a big fan to turn the windmills when the weather isn't cooperating. You know, those hot still days when the electric demand is highest and the windmills don't work. Or, they could use that Natural Gas generator to power the grid and convert the windmills to amusement park attractions. Yeah, those windmills are a great well spent there. The do give the Enviroweenies a warm and fuzzy feeling---if they overlook all the dead birds at the base of those 'renewable' energy sources and the fact that they warm the region around them.
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      by Willie on May 23, 2012 at 06:25 PM in reply to big bad wolf
      For those who are less intelligent. Windmill farms are placed in areas where the lack of wind is hardly ever an issue. The other simpleton comments are pretty much what anyone would expect from people who aren't smart enough to do a little research. It's such a shame the GOP has dumbed down people like Big Dumb Wolf so much, they don't even realize how stupid they sound.
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        by Wonka on May 24, 2012 at 08:14 AM in reply to Willie
        And what are the simpleton comments? Do windmills kill hundreds of thousands of birds, including protected species (70 Golden Eagles on avg per year in CA alone)? YES. Do they heat up the ground around windmills by nearly 2 degrees? YES. Does electricity from windmills cost more than double that generated by coal? (4 times more if you calculate the cost of transmission lines to the remote areas where most windmills are found)?YES. Do windmills operate at around 30 percent of their optimal capacity because of lack of wind in the hottest summer months when consumption is at its peak and require other sources to back up them because of their inherent unreliability)? YES. And who sounds stupid?
  • by Anonymous on May 23, 2012 at 06:40 AM
    Do they think that people intentionally use up electricity needlessly?? Most people don't want high electric bills, thus, they typically do not waste electricity. I am looking to Solyndra for the answers!
  • by cole Location: coalgate on May 23, 2012 at 04:28 AM
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      by Nocole on May 23, 2012 at 09:07 AM in reply to cole
      King Obama says "no coal"
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      by Bob on May 23, 2012 at 11:06 AM in reply to cole
      Coal??? What are you smoking??? Natural gas is the obvious solution for anybody who actually has a clue!! By the way, its not a generation capacity problem, its a wealth generation solution by use of scare tactic and actual blackouts! This is how utilities get away with insane delivery charges! The shortage is created purposely!
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        by Baawb on May 23, 2012 at 03:38 PM in reply to Bob
        Why is coal not the solution, Bob? Don't we have more coal than any nation on Earth? Isn't coal generated electricity the least expensive of all other choices, including nat gas? You do know that the majority of US electrical generation is from coal, right? What this story is about is the EPA mandating that coal generators in TX meet impossible standards in a short time frame that would take 11,000 megawatts offline next June.
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          by Bob on May 29, 2012 at 08:04 AM in reply to Baawb
          Its pretty obvious that the fight with EPA and environmentalist on coal is not going to be won! Natural gas is the clear immediate solution because it is only slighty more expensive then coal, the US is reaching maximum capacity for storage, and we are keeping hundreds of thousands of Americans employed by using natural gas. Its pretty clear that beating the EPA on the decision of coal is a pipe dream. Texas has already conceded in the battle and made these concessions years ago to keep these coal generators online as long as they have been. Everyone in the industry knows this shortage was coming for a decade.
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          by Anonymous on Jun 8, 2012 at 04:23 PM in reply to Baawb
          You can't battle the EPA? Sounds like tyranny to me rather than governance by the consent of the people. Elect the right people and the EPA will wither and die. Not that some environmental regulations are necessary, but some agencies like the EPA are their own little fiefdoms that assume power from complicated yet vague legislation that gives them wide latitude in writing regulations and enforcement without any accountability.
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        by Rebel82 on Jun 13, 2012 at 06:39 AM in reply to Bob
        I agree,but I think the plan is to sell it to China.
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      by Slaw on May 23, 2012 at 01:24 PM in reply to cole
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        by Anonymous on May 23, 2012 at 03:30 PM in reply to Slaw
        Yeah, we need windmills to generate electricity on those hot July days with no breezes---those days when electricity demand is at it's highest. That windmill electricity that would not exist without borrowed taxpayer dollars because it isn't competitive, costs three times as much as coal generated elec.....yeah, that's the solution to all of our problems, windmills.
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          by GOP on May 23, 2012 at 06:19 PM in reply to
          Glad you weren't around when electricity was discovered. You would have said it was too expensive to run all that cable to every house in the country. And those new-fangled automobiles? Never work. Do you realize how much man-power and money it would take to make roads all over this country? Running water? You must be crazy. Can you imagine how many water lines would have to be run to get water to each house? And who's slave is going to pump it for you? While you're thinking about that, I'll be in the out-house. Anyway. This is America. We can't create new technology. Much less build the infrastructure to make new technology viable. That would create too many jobs. And we all know those oil prices are going to go down and stay down.
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          by GOOP (what remains of the bird population around wind farms) on May 24, 2012 at 08:29 AM in reply to
          Your argument is nonsensical. Recognizing the inherent inefficiency of windmill generation doesn't make one a Luddite. Windmills are not reliable and require construction of other generating sources to back them up. They are located far from points of use. In some very limited cases, they may be cost efficient, but not in most. Only subsidies and mandates make them truly profitable. Even CA is running away from them, not only because of costs, but because of the decimation of endangered bird species. So are European countries. Ask Spain how that renewable energy program worked out for them. We all know oil prices are going down and likely to stay down because of rapidly increasing supply. Nat gas is at or near historical lows and will remain so because supply is endless and production costs going down making it's production profitable for as far as the eye can see. Fracking is the technological advance you should be promoting and celebrating, not windmills that even the Dutch gave up on. Renewables are almost always cost inefficient and have unintended consequences that we can not afford just to make ourselves feel all warm and fuzzy because--WE CARE and rest of you don't!
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