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Teen dead after traffic game goes wrong in Lone Grove Save Email Print
Posted: 6:14 PM Aug 18, 2008
 Last Updated: 6:32 PM Aug 18, 2008
 Reporter: Robin Beal
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LONE GROVE, Okla. – A “Chinese Fire Drill” goes wrong, and one child is dead, according to police. It happened around nine o'clock Saturday night in Lone Grove at the intersection of Meridian and Prairie Valley.

Police say a man was driving a vehicle carrying his two sons and another boy. At the intersection, the three boys got out of the car to play the "Chinese fire-drill" game. The driver thought all three kids were back in the car, but 14-year-old Zach Smith, who is not his son, was not all the way inside the vehicle. Smith slipped and fell underneath the car.

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Smith was taken to Mercy Memorial in Ardmore by ambulance, where he was later pronounced dead.

On Monday, the Carter County community of Lone Grove is mourning.

Coaches are remembering Smith as a vibrant young man who will be sorely missed.

The driver's name is not being released.
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Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 12, 2008 at 04:20 AM
If it wasn't on purpose with this game, (to one or some committs on the ,on purpose issue) well why did it happen? Think about it.
Posted by: Best Friend of Zach Location: Lone Grove on Aug 31, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Some of these comments are absolutely HORRIBLE. This was an accident, and NO i do not think he is a stupid guy for letting my friends do that. Yes, it upsets me very much to know my friend is gone, but it was an accident! If it was his time, IT WAS HIS TIME!..NO ONE control when a person is to die except for God. And i think you people are foolish for thinking you could have made a better decision. It is hard enough for this man to have to live with that for the rest of his life let alone have people that have no business in the situation putting in their opinion. I loved Zachery very much but i know he is in a better place and i am thankful to have had him in my life. He has changed many lives,and if he wouldnt have past some people would still be lost without Christ. And i think that was Gods plan. For those of you who werent putting someone down for their decisions, Thank you and keep his family and friends in your prayers. God Bless You.
Posted by: Best Friend Of Zach Location: Lone Grove on Aug 31, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Some of these comments are absolutely HORRIBLE. This was an accident, and NO i do not think he is a stupid guy for letting my friends do that. Yes, it upsets me very much to know my friend is gone, but it was an accident! If it was his time, IT WAS HIS TIME!..NO ONE controls when a person is to die except for God. And i think you people are foolish for thinking you could have made a better decision. It is hard enough for this man to have to live with that for the rest of his life let alone have people that have no business in the situation putting in their opinion. I loved Zachery very much but i know he is in a better place and i am thankful to have had him in my life. He has changed many lives,and if he wouldnt have past some people would still be lost without Christ. And i think that was Gods plan. For those of you who werent putting someone down for their decisions, Thank you and keep his family and friends in your prayers. God Bless You.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 22, 2008 at 10:49 PM
mork from dork ,please shut your pie hole. thanks & have a great day.
Posted by: partofthefam Location: ardmore on Aug 21, 2008 at 10:15 PM
i am a part of this family most of you know nothing of the truth if you would have seen the forgiveness and love that has come from zach's family they are truley showing the true love that only God can give. So do this one simple thing and PRAY. zach would have it no other way . So if you really cared you would be praying for help for both families in their time of need. they both have talked, prayed and LOVED with each other. may God continue to bless them both.
Posted by: JURY on Aug 21, 2008 at 02:49 AM
I think it takes special people to touch so many lifes, and Zach did just that! Zach would not want that dad to be punished. But more important Zachs family and the dad have been spending time together to help each other through this tough time. If Zachs family beleive it was an accident and does not wish to have the driver punished, then I think we need to respect that. I let my son ride his bike around the block the other day. If he fell off his bike and a car was coming and hit him, there would be no difference because I was just letting my kid have fun! Yeap in the "traffic". This did not happening on the interstate or a busy intersection. It happened at a 4 way stop and there was only 1 or 2 cars around at that time going the another direction. It would be more dangerious letting your kid ride his bike in the street!
Posted by: Why I moved Location: away from lone grove on Aug 21, 2008 at 02:35 AM
This is a terrible tragedy. My heart goes out to all that are in affected by this. A lot of you reminded me of why I moved away from here, and decided to start my family in a bigger city. It's absolutely sad the things that a lot of you said about this. It's been a rather tragic summer for texoma in general, and still no one can take a moment off and realize that these are serious issues.Take the time you're using to say these awful things, and use them to pray you big wonderful christians. Use some of that time that you're using here in your own home, or with own family.
Posted by: V Location: Love County on Aug 21, 2008 at 12:53 AM
Dear God, Please be with the families involved in this terrible tragedy and be with their loved ones and friends... May You be their strength and anchor in the days to come. Amen PLEASE JOIN ME IN THIS PRAYER CHAIN BY POSTING IT IN YOUR COMMENTS.
Posted by: cj Location: ardmore on Aug 20, 2008 at 04:02 PM
My prayers are over pouring for these two families. These are times that we all need to come together in unity and lift one another up in prayer! For all the children that were there at the time of the accident, just know that God's arms are around you and comforting you! Bless everyone that is showing loving concern to both families. My deepest sympathy to all of Zach's family and dearest friends. May you all be able to mourn this great loss in peace and understanding.
Posted by: Reva50 Location: Ardmore on Aug 20, 2008 at 01:44 PM
This was a horrible, horrible accident. I feel so bad for all involved. And I know that father never dreamed anything like this would happen; my heart goes out to Zach's family and to this father. The only thing that really bothers me is that many of you posters seem to think this is an okay thing to do. It's one of the most dangerous things anyone can do - because of outcomes just like this. My parents always taught me to NEVER, NEVER play this game. And I never did. Not trying to be mean, but please open your eyes - please don't think this is okay. I truly hope some of you change your minds about this.
Posted by: Annie on Aug 20, 2008 at 11:39 AM
You guys can say whatever you want on here the families involved have other things to deal with, and they aren't reading your comments. Zach's mother and father are not sitting at home surfing the internet, they are mourning the loss of their beautiful son. Peace be to anyone this accident has touched.
Posted by: Leslie {mother of a Freshman at LONE GROVE HIGH Location: Lone Grove on Aug 20, 2008 at 09:48 AM
Enough has been said about the accident it time to let it go... The parents have to let their precious child go today, they don't need anymore negitive talk all it's doing is making it harder on everyone. And to all of you who are mocking God's Word SHAME ON YOU. God does know everything thats going to happen before it does and GOD did take another ANGEL HOME. TO BOTH FAMLIES MY GOD BE WITH YOU TODAY AND ALWAYS.
Posted by: Jess on Aug 20, 2008 at 08:32 AM
I'm not really blaming anyone. All I'm saying is that there are kids in the news EVERY WEEK because they were hit by a car, a bus, an ATV accident, etc. I was slowing down by a church and was trying to make a turn and a small boy darted out in front of me. I threw the car in park, got out and yelled at the boy AND HIS MOTHER BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T SAY OR DO ANYTHING!!! She didn't even spank him! The street is not a playground and GAMES should not be played with CARS and CHILDREN!!!!!! PERIOD. Parents aren't not teaching and ENFORCING that the street is a NO PLAY AND OFF LIMITS ZONE!!!
Posted by: JMO on Aug 20, 2008 at 07:34 AM
Fozzy go slap your 2nd grade teacher cause she apparantly did not teach you to read. We are not promoting this game. I repeat. WE ARE NOT PROMOTING THIS GAME. We simply wish you would stop damning someone for making an innocent mistake. You refuse to answer our questions. Have you ever driven over the speed limit? You won't say no because you know that would be lying. Couldn't we all bad mouth you for putting lives at jeopardy and breaking the law? We don't promote speeding or playing fire drill, but we understand that people have lapses in judgement. It is not your job to come on here acting high and mighty and bad mouthing people who are going through the most difficult time in their life. You should feel ashamed for how you speak on here. Hiding behind the anonymity of the internet. You are a bottom feeder. You make me ill.
Posted by: EC Location: S.OK. on Aug 20, 2008 at 05:36 AM
Sorry to disappoint all of you, but leaving the driver to his 'emotional pain' is NOT good enough! He can suffer with that while he is dealing with the legal ramifications of his actions...or should I say inaction. Another thing-- this was NOT part of God's plan! Perhaps you are too busy pretending to pray and care for Zach's family to remember God gave man FREE WILL! We make our own decisions, we make our own mistakes, we are responsible for what we do and what happens to us. God is not 'calling home another Angel' and it's not 'God's will'. I cannot believe how often the Bible is used by the ignorant to explain away bad things. We go to God for guidance and we use faith in Him to help us get through things we bring on ourselves through decisions. God DOES NOT give us all the answers...he gives us direction/a guideline to help us find the answers. Stop using God as an excuse and let people take responsibility for their actions. You face judgement breaking laws of God & Man!
Posted by: Nightshift Location: OK on Aug 20, 2008 at 02:42 AM
I think all you Christians need to learn the difference between judging someone's soul and someone's actions as we do in a court of law. No one said that he should burn in hell. It would help if you knew what you are talking about. No one said he was evil or anything to that extent. Some people are just saying he needs to be accountable under the law. No one is judging his heart, just his actions. Just because you speed on the road doesn't make you evil. Killing someone over drugs and money does! And this is a public forum, you don't have to read or write your 2 cents here, you have that choice. Send your sympathies and prays to the funeral home website or in person. This forum is for opinions whether you like them or not about what happened. And if you believe in God like you say you do, why do you feel you have to keep posting in order to defend your beliefs or the family. I believe, I am not so insecure to where I have to defend my beliefs on a blog, just giving my opinion.
Posted by: momma of three Location: gene autry on Aug 19, 2008 at 11:32 PM
KXII I CAN NOT BELIEVE YOU ARE POSTING SOME OF THESE COMMENTS THEY ARE NEGATIVE AND HURTFUL THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS ARE HURTING ENOUGH THE RUDE AND UNGRATEFUL COMMENTS ARE UNCALLED FOR NOBODY IS PERFECT AT ALL ONLY GOD MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO EACH AND EVERYONE
Posted by: Very Concerned Location: Lone Grove on Aug 19, 2008 at 10:43 PM
My prayers go out to both families that were involved in this ACCIDENT! They also go out to all of you people who are making this situation worse! It's a sad day when you people want to lockup this man who was just tring to be part of his sons and their friends lives. It breaks my heart to think of what this man must be going thru. To read some of these comments makes me sick. You negative people really need to take a good look in the mirror. The world is too small for people who want to cast stones at others in the time of need. We don't need you or your comments. All of these people need your support and help to get them past this tragity and move forward with their lives. They have all suffered enough. So please out of respect to both families if you have nothing to say that will help everyone involved in this ACCIDENT start the healing process, then please keep it out of the public view. Enough damage has been done. God Bless every one involved my prayers are with you
Posted by: Republican in Ardmore Location: Ardmore on Aug 19, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Republican in Lone Grove, I would expect something like that from Lone Grove. I knew you all where saying prays and what not to make yourselves look good. I take it as you speak for the whole town? And for the father's sake, I'm not judging his soul, but he should be accountable for his judgement.
Posted by: Ardmoreite Location: Ardmore on Aug 19, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Republican in Lone Grove, you nasty thing!
Posted by: 4inLG Location: Lone Grove on Aug 19, 2008 at 09:13 PM
To those of you writing all of the negative comments, we now have proof the kids are reading these and REALLY DO NOT NEED THIS RIGHT NOW!! "Friend of Zach and Alex" is a 14yr old classmate of theirs. I personally know this girl and all of the kids that were there that night both in the vehicle with Zach, in the pickup behind them at the stop sign, and facing them from the other direction. Plus a couple of classmates that happened upon the accident. To "Fozzy" this is not a major intersection in LG. To most of you I hope you don't let your kids ride a bike in the street, ride a horse, a 4-wheeler or even stand out by the road waiting for the bus. I have known kids that where killed doing all of these things. It was an ACCIDENT. Please leave these families in peace. And yes, I am a God fearing Christian who is also praying for you.
Posted by: ac Location: ardmore on Aug 19, 2008 at 07:20 PM
The father is suffering enough. Without anyone else's negative input. What are you gaining by putting this man down? Nothing, God does not want you to be bitter but to be forgiving. It says in the bible how do we expect for God to forgive us if we can not forgive others? For those of you who call us bible belts. Thats fine Jesus was spit on and mocked. And then descended to heaven to be with his father. With thousands of people watching. And we still deny him after everything he did . He died on the cross for our sins. And this is the way we repay him. The bible says that the tongue is a snare. My prayers are with the family and the mans family. I know that if he could roll back time he would. But unfortunatley he can't. In times like these is when you need to pray and stay in the word. People will forsake you. People will make fun. People will pass away. But God won't. And now these three remain:faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. 1 Corinthians 13:13
Posted by: Leslie Location: Lone Grove on Aug 19, 2008 at 07:14 PM
hey I'm one of those Bible Thumping Christian and wouldn't mind meeting with you but you would have to give your name instead of hiding behind posted by Ardmore Location. LEAVE THIS FAMILY ALONE.YOU ARE FAR FROM PERFECT.THERE IS NO PERFECT PERSON WE ARE ALL GUILTY OF SOMETHING. BOTH FAMILIES NEED LOVE AND SUPPORT FROM EVERYONE AROUND, ALSO LOTS OF PRAYER. ZACH WAS A GOOD BOY AND SO IS ALEX THEY COME FROM GOOD CHRISTIAN HOMES. SO BACK OFF WITH YOU NEGETIVE WORDS. PROUD LONE GROVE CITIZEN.
Posted by: Friend of Zach and Alex Location: Lone Grove on Aug 19, 2008 at 06:39 PM
I wish all you people out there would quite saying negetive things against Alex's Dad. he didnt mean 2 they were just playing a game and it went wrong he has 2 live with this and he doesnt need this stuff. YOU PEOPLE NEED TO LEAVE ALEX'S DAD .AND ZACH'S FAMILY ALONE BOTH BOYS ARE AWLSOME KIDS AND I LOVE THEM VERY MUCH AND I WILL MISS ZACH VERY MUCH.. And remember, Thou shalt not judge lest ye be judged. And God is the only perfect one. So to each of you with your negetive words please take a long look at your self and see if your perfect or if you have done something at one time or anouther that could have caused a accident. To Zach's family and Alex's My Love and Prayers are with all of you. and remember zach loved everyone in school and out of school he was a fun and loving guy.. love your friend tori
Posted by: Fozzy Location: Ardmore on Aug 19, 2008 at 06:12 PM
Judge? you bet.. Jury? Who makes up juries?.. and Executioner? Who wants to put who to death here? So far the people insisting that this was normal behavior at the ones damning and threatening everyone. If I'm odd because I have better judgment than to all CHILDREN to run around in traffic and call it "fun", then so be it. This reminds me of parent who introduce their children to street drugs and sex.. sheesh! grow up!!!
Posted by: Ardmoreite Location: Ardmore on Aug 19, 2008 at 05:43 PM
So how many of you bible-thumbing self-proclaimed christians in LG wanna have a picnic in the intersection of broadway and commerce, it will be fun, as long as we dont get in the way of traffic or the cops dont pick us up!
Posted by: Republican in Lone Grove Location: Lone Grove on Aug 19, 2008 at 04:45 PM
To the Republican in Ardmore - YOU'RE AN IDIOT AND I WISH I COULD MEET YOU IN A DARK ALLEY!!!
Posted by: Tommy C. Location: Sherman on Aug 19, 2008 at 03:58 PM
Republican from Ardmore, you are a FOOL. How do any of you know the kids didn't do this on their own? Do you really think the dad said "ok, the next stop sign, I want you all to jump out of the car and back in"? The kids probably decided this on their own. Leave the guy alone, my God, he just killed his son's friend. How shameful some of you are.
Posted by: Jimmie Location: Gainesville on Aug 19, 2008 at 03:50 PM
GOD Bless all envolved in this accident. This is one of the most horrific things I have see in a while. My prayers as well the prayers of other are with you. I even prayer the igorant ones who have left thoughtless comments. May the Lord have mercy on your soles. Or at the very least stike you down with some form of hideous deforming disease. For the ones hurt by these most traggic effect needs our prayers not heartless comments. others are with you.
Posted by: JMO on Aug 19, 2008 at 03:47 PM
Fozzy, No one is encouraging others to go play this game. We just understand that EVERYONE uses less than stellar judgement sometimes like you have done when you have driven over the speed limit (and I know you have). Should we all persecute you for putting lives in danger? You have no sympathy. You are not a humane individual. You need to examine your own life and stop playing judge, jury and executioner for everyone else.
Posted by: Matt on Aug 19, 2008 at 03:32 PM
You're stupid if you really think " if this was anyone else they would be in jail by now." Apparently you live in a different country than the rest of us. Why don't you idiots keep you're comments to yourselves and leave both of these families alone to grieve. Bunch of high and mighty know it alls. I can't stand it!! Wouldn't none of ya'll open your big mouths like that in public. You'd be too chicken!
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 19, 2008 at 02:30 PM
What in the world is supposed to be fun about running around a car and getting back inside?
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 19, 2008 at 02:12 PM
YOu know isn't it child endangerment havn't kids in a moving car with out seat belts? This is a 30 year old man with kids of his own. What was he thinking. I think he should spend the rest of his life in jail. If it was anyone else , they would be in jail by now.
Posted by: Fozzy Location: Ardmore on Aug 19, 2008 at 01:57 PM
AND.. you god freaks need to shut your yaps! What did this kid do to have god strike him down? You cannot have it both ways!
Posted by: Fozzy Location: Ardmore on Aug 19, 2008 at 01:55 PM
It amazes me that there are so many people who see nothing wrong with this. No wonder there are so many grandparents raising children these days. The reason that people are calling this game and act stupid is that the resulting death and all of the horrible things that the families have to go through now was very predictable. This isn't a game of tag, this isn't something harmless, this is allowing children to run around in the street in a major intersection in a major route through town around a running vehicle with someone at the controls. When its some teenager in a group of teenagers, its sad but understandable being that they are not being supervised. When there is an adult/parent present who is supposed to be the voice of reason. It is not acceptable to many (hence the reactions). We all know that this man will suffer forever because of this, we all know that the families are in pain, It doesn't change the fact that the reactions SHOULD be negative to dissuade other people.
Posted by: Compassionate Person Location: Lone Grove on Aug 19, 2008 at 01:23 PM
Republican, you are the reason I vote democrat!! Your tunnel vision thinking makes me ill, I only pray you are right that the Lord would strike some sense into people, I have you at the top of my list in prayer. How could you possibly condemn a person you do not know, it is unfortunate, and sad. You choose to use this place to bad mouth an already tragic event. Please think about the people in this town that are hurting over the loss, and trying to deal with the fact a child is no longer with us. You are continuing to cause pain by rubbing those of us who are saddened wrong. Save it, we don't need your opinions and furthermore don't want them.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 19, 2008 at 12:43 PM
This game has been played for along time, if you haven't played it, it's fun. This wasn't even on a major intersection, my daughter told me they have played it all in good fun, she's 15, and will not play it anymore. This was just a horrible accident, and think how the man is going to always feel. His life is ruined. Just for having a little fun. These people need support not these crazy comments, saying they are perfect. Accidents will happen. I pray for ALL
Posted by: Redneck Woman Location: Sherman on Aug 19, 2008 at 12:25 PM
God Bless this dad in the accident. Who as a parent hasn't done something dumb? I know I have. We do stupid things every day uintentionally. At least this dad was spendind time with his kids and their friends. Which is more than I can say for alot of parents! Quit pointing fingers and leave everyone involoved alone. God bless this community and may the families find comfort one day.
Posted by: Mr. BigFoot Location: The Woods on Aug 19, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Grrrrrrrrrrrr......I am BigFoot. Hear me roar! Me no like stupid people. You stupid people SHUT UP......NOW. Thank you and have a good day.
Posted by: momoffour Location: lone grove on Aug 19, 2008 at 11:47 AM
As many of you have said it was an accident. My daughter is a freshman at lone grove high school and a friend of Zach's, she had only good things to say abut him. As for the person who said we should leave God out of it you better hope God does not strike you down, Im proud to live in an area where there are lots of Christions and we are gathering around for both families in this time of need. My prayers go out for the parents and family of Zach's. and to the family of Zach's best friend Alex. No one has the right to Judge for as we are only human we will all make a mistake at some point in our lives. May God be with you and all of those who knew and loved Zach.
Posted by: Deb Location: Marietta on Aug 19, 2008 at 11:45 AM
I am shocked at the remarks that some of the people have made over this incident. I am going on 59 years old and I can actually remember doing the Chinese Fire Drill as a teenager and enjoying every minute of it. One thing I can say is at least the father was with his children instead of sending them off and not knowing where they are or what they may be doing. I do not know either family, but I am more than sure this certainly was not planned because he would have never ever even let them play the game if he had any idea that this was going to happen. Like someone said, this man along with his two sons have to live with this the rest of their lives and they will never forget it. I personally do not think that negative remarks should even be posted for the families to read for the simple reason that they are going through enough right now and for the rest of their lives over this terrible accident and they do not need additional ignorant comments from idiots that have no feelings.
Posted by: Plainview Mom Location: Ardmore on Aug 19, 2008 at 10:05 AM
My 12 year old cried in school yesterday and she did not know Zach even tho one of her friends did and was crying too. Children are still just babies we are supposed to watch over and take care of. They are not adults. Please be good to our children and don't let them see and hear all of this negativity. The world is dangerous enough without adults taking risks like this man did. This is why I hardly ever let my daughters go with their friends or their parents. You can't trust other peoples actions as always being responsible. Plainview intermediate is so sorry for the loss of Zach, God Bless You!
Posted by: Jess on Aug 19, 2008 at 09:39 AM
Bob, I don't believe that children should be confined to the indoor life. However, with SO many kids being hit by cars these days, this is danger waiting to happen. Driving IS NOT A GAME AND CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.
Posted by: Boo Location: Sherman on Aug 19, 2008 at 09:31 AM
I was at a stop light behind some guy the other day. He hopped out of the truck, ran to the tool chest, then hopped back in before the light changed... The first thing I thought of was "Chinese Fire drill" and laughed because it brought back fond memories. No matter how sad this is, it was an accident. To live life in fear is to not live life at all.
Posted by: mother Location: Whitesboro on Aug 19, 2008 at 09:24 AM
I can count the number of times as a teen me and my friends did the Chinese Fire Drill! Most times its harmless fun. May God be with the family of this boy and father who ACCIDENTLY ran over him! I am sure he did not intentionally run over him. We should pray for all involved not judge. Leave the judging to God!!!
Posted by: shaunna Location: ardmore on Aug 19, 2008 at 08:42 AM
Steve, my thoughts & prayers are with you and your family. May God embrace you in yourtime of loss.
Posted by: Josh Location: sherman on Aug 19, 2008 at 08:32 AM
Hey, I herd a kid got killed playing tag we should go beat his parents. Then we should get all the people in this thing to run everything. It seems to me we have some people that could rais everones kids.Wait someone already did that what was his name? O ya Hitler O well we gave it a try to bad this is free country and you can have fun. I pray the family get through this ok GOD speed
Posted by: Anonymous Location: lone grove on Aug 19, 2008 at 08:09 AM
This is a horrible accident nothing more to those of you who have bashed the father you need to wake up a smell the coffee one man died to save us he and only he has the right to judge you all need to get out your bible and read it and say a prayer for the families and not make negative comments my god bless the families and you to for making negative comments
Posted by: beverly Location: tx on Aug 19, 2008 at 07:41 AM
to all you parents who put your kids in bubble wrap before they leave the house YOU NEED TO LIGHTEN UP. this dad was having fun with his sons and a friend. i have never played this game before but ive seen it and it lokks like people having fun. yes i agree that this is a terrible accident. unless you know this guy personally and can say he is a no good so & so then shut up. it sounds like to me a dad was having fun with the kids. thats nice for a change. i agree with momthatplays2 and adult from pottsboro and miki.prays to both familys
Posted by: JMO on Aug 19, 2008 at 07:06 AM
So many people, including myself, have done things they should not have done. The only difference is that we got away with it. Now everyone is so critical of an accident that happened because of a game. Everyone reading this has done something at some point that unnecessarily put someones life at risk. Went over the speed limit. Drank too much. Accidentally ran a stop sign. Smoked around people who don't smoke and forced them to breath second hand smoke. Driven without seat belt. Not putting a child in the required car seat. The list goes on and on. All you high and mighty hipocrites that are criticizing the father need to take a look at yourself. The bible says to stop talking about the thorn in someone else's eye when you have a log in your own. Unless you have lived a perfect life then stop judging this man. We have all done things that could have ended badly and by the grace of God we got lucky. Pray for healing.
Posted by: Nelda Location: Denison on Aug 19, 2008 at 06:38 AM
I thought most folks knew what a Chinese Fire Drill was. For all those that are condemning this man,I suggest you stop and then start praying for all those involved. I guess you that are ripping this man up have never done anything that was not in good judgement.How many parents give their kids violent video games,let them watch movies and videos that they shouldnt see?Or look the other way when they get alcohol? Stop condemning-these folks need our support.
Posted by: Adam Lowe Location: OSAN AB, Korea on Aug 19, 2008 at 04:11 AM
What does GOD have anything to do with this occurance? It is terrible, sad and tragic... but why does God have to be involved? An adult male happened to make a bad decision and as a result of that decision, an inocent child is dead. I'm so tired of this "bible-belt" mantality taking over subjects such as these. Has it ever occured to any of you that "we, human beings" are what make this world what it is? We create the future and write the past based on decisions we make and how we interact with other human beings. Does anyone agree with me? I fell so sorry for the family of this child and even more so for the man that ran him over.. Could you imagine living with that the rest of your life? That is the ultimate un-deserved punishment.. a punishment for life.
Posted by: someone Location: oklahoma on Aug 19, 2008 at 02:44 AM
There's a time and a place for argument and this is definately NOT the time or place. These poor families are going through a tremendous (almost incomprehensive) amount of suffering. If you're religious, please pray for them. If not, at least send good thoughts their way. They need all the support they can get. I'll be praying for all families involved, including those of the emergency personnel. May God be with them.
Posted by: RayRay Location: Cartwright on Aug 19, 2008 at 01:16 AM
Good grief..this is why it is called an accident. It wasn't meant to happen. Please don't kick people who feel miserable enough already.."He who has no sin cast the first stone"..
Posted by: Republican in Ardmore Location: Ardmore on Aug 19, 2008 at 12:48 AM
Compassionate Person in Lone Grove, if youre asking me if I would do something as dangerous as what this father did, Id say heck no! You can quote the dictionary all you want, the father did a stupid thing, period. And if the rest of the world wants to take chances with their own lives then thats their choice. You also state that he may have played this game a 100 times himself, fine if he wants to risk his own life or his kids, but don't risk anyone elses. He doesnt have that right. You also stated that youre glad you live in Lone Grove where theres compassion, love and encouragement, too bad you didnt mention anything about having some sense to live with too! I will pray that God will strike some of you with some sense so no one else gets hurt again. Just imagine that boy would be here today, if the father had just thought about his actions before he acted. And dont tell me he didnt have time to think about someone getting hurt before this happened, cause it was already on his mind.
Posted by: anonymouse Location: Ardmore on Aug 18, 2008 at 11:40 PM
God bless the families which are involved int his accident..I agree the car is not a place for fun but we all do things w/o thinking but life is a journey which we all have different endings to so we have to be on our toes in life. Im sure we have all let them slip even just the tiniest b4. I pray that god be with the familes n there time n need. That god will see them through everything... This boy is in gods kingdom having all he ever wanted and I am glad that god has him safe and that he is ok... God bless U all..Be safe
Posted by: Kay Location: Denison on Aug 18, 2008 at 11:10 PM
You people with the negative comments! We are NOT here to judge anyone. Only GOD can judge. I only hope and pray God does not judge you people with the negative comments, as harshly as you have judged this father. He must be experiencing unbearable pain. Then to have folks judge him with such hatred in their attitudes. We have all made bad decisions, just trying to have innocent fun w/our children, and not analyzing all the "what could" have happened. This poor man will feel the pain of this tragedy for the rest of his life. I pray for peace, comfort, and God's loving care for ALL families/responders involved. I pray God will soften the hearts of all the people here making judgemental comments towards the father involved. May you come to know the Lord Jesus Christ and accept him as your Savior and JUDGE. Will all Christians that know God out there agree with me? God Bless.
Posted by: Adult Location: Pottsboro on Aug 18, 2008 at 10:54 PM
To Anonymous on Aug 18, 2008 at 08:28 PM You sound like a rel jerk. And i will speak for many others you are the bigger idiot for your type of comments. Why don't you try to show some compashion for all involved and not act like a child. GROW UP!
Posted by: MomThatPlays2 Location: TX on Aug 18, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Chinese firedrill.wow!That brings back some memories!For those who have asked for an explination of the game..You pull up to a stop light everyone (except the driver usually) gets out of the car and runs around the vehicle and jumps back in before the light turns red.If I had a dime for every time I did this, I'd be rich! irresponsible? yeah, probably. BUT, just think, that father wasn't smoking pot with the kids or molesting them or robbing a store with them. He was playing a game that MANY of us have played a million times!Hind sight is 20/20.If he knew the outcome, I'm sure he would have picked another game to play.How many of you that are being so harsh have handed you 14yr old a roman candle or bottle rocket on the 4th of July and let them do it themselves? Talk about dangerous! How many of your kids have BB guns at this age? are you sitting right there holding their hand each time they pull the trigger?A child has been lost in an ACCIDENT. Is the boys family holding a grudge???
Posted by: Compassionate Person Location: Lone Grove on Aug 18, 2008 at 10:33 PM
To REPUBLICAN, you've never sped? YOU ALWAYS use your turn signal, and come to a complete stop at every stop sign??? You follow the manual to a "T" Correct??? Because you are "RESPONSIBLE"!! Are you honestly saying that this man would do something that would remotely put children in harm's way??? It was probably something he did a 100 times as a "teenager" (as you so neatly put it) so he felt there was no harm. He could have done it a 100 times more and this never happen....you need to read my definition I took from a dictionary on what an accident is. I'm just so upset that someone that is out there would honestly say stuff like that...I am so thankful I live in LG where the people are compassionate, loving, and encouraging. They believe in the words of the Lord of loving thy neighbor. A good rule to follow in times of crisis. I pray that you realize that judgments are left to the Lord and the law. Keep yours to yourself.
Posted by: mamma Location: fannin on Aug 18, 2008 at 10:28 PM
It sounds like a parent just made a very bad choice i am sure the boys were having a good time we all as parents enjoy seeing our kids having fun and this man and his children will be living in hell the rest of their lives GOD BLESS EVERYONE AND REST IN PEACE ZACH this was a night of fun that went very bad.
Posted by: 4inLG Location: Lone Grove on Aug 18, 2008 at 09:28 PM
The cruel and hurtful comments being made are not helping any of these families or Zach's friends in any way. Please if you have to say something cruel or hateful tell it to your own friend on the phone don't post it for everyone to read. All of our prayers to the families and all of the kids that witnessed or came upon the accident.
Posted by: Horns Location: LG on Aug 18, 2008 at 08:59 PM
If you think it was hard on the people how saw the accident, how do you think the first responders who worked on him feel. They are volunteers and people just like you and me. They have to live with the sight of the accident. Thank those guys. Without them we would have no help when needed.
Posted by: Bill Location: Southmayd on Aug 18, 2008 at 08:38 PM
To you IDIOTS that say, "it was just a game" ,Do you think Zach's parents are saying " Oh it was only a game" so that makes it OK?,They are in shock.Then comes anger, that their precious son was killed while in the care of an ADULT.I dont know any of these people,but it was a stupid thing to do without being 100% sure everyone is safe.I pray for all involved.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 18, 2008 at 08:29 PM
Republican and other critical posters...have you ever let your children or grandchildren ride in the back of a pickup, behind you on a 4 wheeler, on a lawn mower or tractor? These are also dangerous. This was a horrible accident. I am sure if the father could see in the future he would surely change the outcome. However, there is nothing that can change what happened now. These families will have to try and get through some of the worst times they will ever face. I won't even attempt to imagine what they are going through right now. I will be in prayer for both families and ask that GOD will help them through this very difficult time. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but sometimes they are best kept to yourself. Especially in a circumstance like this. Now is not the time to put anyone down and cast stones at them. This was a very unfortunate accident and honestly no charges should be filed. No I don't know the dad, but my son went to school with both boys.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 18, 2008 at 08:28 PM
If I found out one of my children were texting or using there cell phone I take away there driving privileges, let alone having a Chinese fire drill. Hey Miki you are an idiot...
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 18, 2008 at 07:59 PM
it's always so frustrating to see the people on here going through all of the coulda shoulda wouldas. he shouldn't have done this, i wouldn't have done that. well, it's all so simple isn't it for everyone to give all of the "perfect" answers to all of life's problems.
Posted by: Zachs friend Location: LG on Aug 18, 2008 at 07:43 PM
No this WAS NOT on purpose it was an ACCIDENT even though it might be hard to understand it was an ACCIDENT it is hard for me cuz i was one if Zachs friends and i went to school with him and i was in the same grade and i understand it was an ACCIDENT and you should to :(
Posted by: Good Republican Location: OK on Aug 18, 2008 at 07:24 PM
Republican in ardmore needs to live a little, dont be so unhappy and educate yourself to know that we all make mistakes and just because this father made one big one doesnt make him any less of a person. Think if your life hadnt been so perfect how you would feel after this happened and to see someone stereotype you has a irresponsbile father, instead of a HUMAN just making a irresponsible decision.
Posted by: Republican in Ardmore Location: Ardmore on Aug 18, 2008 at 06:36 PM
I can't believe how many of you posters here are saying this is an accident. It was a stupid act committed by an irresponsible father. I don't remember reading about playing "Chinese fire drill" in the Oklahoma Drivers Manual and that it was "OK" to do so when I took my driver's test. I can see a teenager doing something like this, but not an adult. Why is it that irresponsible people always want to scream "accident" when they do something stupid?
Posted by: Jim Location: Whitesboro on Aug 18, 2008 at 06:22 PM
I've never heard of a "Chinese Fire Drill" game and I'm sure many others have never heard of it either. Why not explain it on the air so people will know how the kid was killed.
Posted by: A compassionate Person Location: Lone Grove on Aug 18, 2008 at 06:00 PM
When did so many people get the right to be judge and jury....Some that made the comment that this parent was negligent, and they would never do something like this, what high horse are you riding? Because I hope you never fall off, because it will be a long drop to reality. This man would never intentionally harm any person, he was simply trying to show some young men fun...and if we need to stay away from cars because they are dangerous, then please do not walk in front of a car in walmart parking lot, or stand next to a car as it pulls out, these are all innocent things that can be tragic. You know if you look at the definition of an accident it says: An accident is a specific, identifiable, unexpected, unusual and unintended external event which occurs in a particular time and place, without apparent or deliberate cause but with marked effects. I think this sums up this issue. Enough Said!! Please respect the families involved and do not use this forum to hurt this family mor
Posted by: Me Location: Sherman on Aug 18, 2008 at 05:15 PM
BOB..... NO I HAVEN"T. I have never played this game and I would NEVER allow my children to either! As we can clearly see it's dangerous. However, I do feel bad for everyone involved. This father ran over and killed this child and that's something he will have to live with for the rest of his life. Even if they do charge him with anything it will be nothing compared to what he'll already be going through.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 18, 2008 at 04:53 PM
"GOD HAS EVERYONES LIFE PLAN WRITTEN OUT. GOD THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO BRING ANOTHER ONE HIS ANGELS HOME." If this is true, God has our lives already mapped out, why do people pray for a better outcome? That is asking God to change his design. Why does God allow kids to be raped? In a Christian's way of thinking, IT WAS PLANNED THAT WAY BY GOD!
Posted by: j Location: lg on Aug 18, 2008 at 03:53 PM
Amen,sister
Posted by: Tamara Location: Lone Grove on Aug 18, 2008 at 03:20 PM
It is amazing to me how many of you people are being so critical. I feel sorry for both families involved in this terrible trajedy. I'll bet ALL of you RESPONSIBLE adults that are making such critical comments are christian, am I right? Nothing against christians but I can't stand the christians that can't practice what they preach...you should try and offer encouragement & hope to this driver, fellow parent, fellow christian...rather than putting him down...SUCH HYPOCRITES!!
Posted by: JMO on Aug 18, 2008 at 03:14 PM
Lay off the father. He was having fun with his children. It was an accident. To me it sounds as though he enjoyed goofing around with his children which signals to me that they had a loving relationship. Do not confuse this accident with any sort of criminal activity. This was an accident.
Posted by: Sara Location: Lone Grove on Aug 18, 2008 at 03:04 PM
How many times in one day do every single one of us make decisions without thinking about the ramifications of our actions. There is no excuse, there is no justification, and above everything else, there are no words that can change what happened. This was a terrible, terrible accident. Life has changed for so many people in the blink of an eye and it is human to want to blame someone for this terrible tragedy. We have all done stupid things...the difference is that this father and this poor young man's family with pay for this decision for the rest of their lives. No one involved in this will ever be the same. Zac G. is right in saying that every second of every day should be cherished. Grab your children and hug and kiss them and tell them every chance you get how much you love them. I know I did. My heart hurts for the family of the young man as well as the father. God bless them and may time mend all of the hearts that have been broken.
Posted by: Zac G. Location: Ardmore on Aug 18, 2008 at 01:56 PM
My prayers go out to the families of all involved, as well as all first responders, police officers, and firefighters. Especially the sweet family that suffered this great lost. Just cherish every moment possible with your family and friends because life is to short. Let's just pray for everyone involved! Our prayers and GOD will make the family's strong through this trying time.
Posted by: Miki Location: G'Ville on Aug 18, 2008 at 01:49 PM
I use to love to play that game when I was little. Try to get get back in the car before the light turns green. Not everyone may know what this game is so many will be saying harsh things to the father that allowed them to do this. What I want to say is SORRY to both families in this horrible ACCIDENT. Many are failing to see that this man would NEVER intentionally hurt anyone. A little fun can anytime bring a tragedy. GOD HAS EVERYONES LIFE PLAN WRITTEN OUT. GOD THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO BRING ANOTHER ONE HIS ANGELS HOME. I PRAY FOR BOTH FAMILIES DURING THIS TIME OF STRUGGLE, GRIEVING, AND HOMECOMING OF THE YOUNG BOY. Have faith!
Posted by: Anonymous Location: Here in Oklahoma on Aug 18, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Maybe this man was just letting the kids have fun. But he was the grown up. You DO NOT let your kids do this stuff. Theres a time and a place to have fun and in the car is not one of them. I do feel sorry for both families and hope they can some how get pass this. I pray for this boys friends who were there with him and they don't get taunted at school for their Dad's dumb mistake. This is something I wouldn't want to live with and have something to talk about in the future. There's alot of irresponsible people on here making comments. Thank God my kids won't be hanging out with your kids. I wouldn't want them to get hurt, so YOU can have something to talk about when YOU get older.
Posted by: Upset Location: Madill on Aug 18, 2008 at 12:52 PM
No not everyone has done this. Just like drinking, contrary to popular belief not everyone goes through a "phase" of drinking. I hope this parent learned a lesson.
Posted by: Tonya Briscoe on Aug 18, 2008 at 12:35 PM
I witness this ACCIDENT, and it was just that! I watch the driver trying so hard to help Zach. He did every thing he could. I was trying to think of something to do, but that dad was already doing it. I had my kids and I told them to get in the car stay and pray. They did just that. I think it is so sad we want to make judgement about this. The boys where best friends. I watched Zachs BEST FRIEND take the shirt off his back and give it to Zach. I can promise, as a witness that was there,this was an accident. A horrible accident.
Posted by: Lone Grover on Aug 18, 2008 at 12:21 PM
That poor family, I feel so bad for Zachs family. I also feel bad for the driver and The York family, I can't imaging how you feel. I also feel bad for the Briscoes, the mom and her kids that had to witness the accident, it will take time for them to recover also. This will affect so many kids and there families. I pray God just puts his hand on each one you them.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 18, 2008 at 11:59 AM
There are a lot of people that live under a stone. Maybe they are right - everyone needs to stop enjoying life and live in a protected bubble so they never get a scratch. God be with those involved in this ACCIDENT.
Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM
No we all have not done this before. Being behind the wheel is no time to "play games" driving is a previlage not a right. you do stupid things then you need to lose that right.
Posted by: Fozzy Location: Ardmore on Aug 18, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Accident? Hardly... It seems like there are no grownups anymore. This kid died under the direct supervision of an adult.
Posted by: Mother Location: Lone Grove on Aug 18, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Thank you Bob for that comment it is so true. I live in LG, my daughter and Zach were good friends, he was a sweet boy, when we heard of this tragedy all the students that knew him and were close to him met at the gym for counsiling and alot of praying. As far as the Dad involved in this awful ACCIDENT, he was only letting the boys have fun, we;ve all done this before my prayers are with all the families involved
Posted by: Momoffour Location: Lone Grove on Aug 18, 2008 at 10:58 AM
I do not think the father should be charged with anything as this was an accident. The father is suffering greatly over what he has done and will suffer as he will have to live with this for the rest of his life. There are already very hurtful and cruel things said being said among the kids at school. Let's be the adults that we are and help our kids through this and hope that they learn how dangerous these games can be. There are two families, not just one suffering here. Granted one is suffering a great deal more than the other, but none the less they are both suffering. Let's just keep all involved in our prayers.
Posted by: Still young Location: your town on Aug 18, 2008 at 10:47 AM
I have played this same game with my children. It is loads of fun. Sorry that it end with such a tragic accident. My thoughts and prayers go out to these families.
Posted by: Ron Location: Durant on Aug 18, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Just what is Chinese Fire Drill? If it is a game played around a vehicle then it is irreponsible. Cars just like tractors, power tools, guns etc. are not toys or games as they can cause death and/or harm and should be treated as such. There are plenty of other ways to have "fun".
Posted by: Bob Location: denison on Aug 18, 2008 at 09:38 AM
OMG We have all done this before don't act like you never have. It was a bad dil adn I am sure the father fill's bad i would. And he has to live with that the rest of his life and if that aint bad i don't now what is. Blair,jess You are the people that think kids should stay indoors and not have fun. In life we all do stupid thing. What would we talk about if we didn't do them. So go get off your box and get back in it and stay safe.
Posted by: Jess on Aug 18, 2008 at 08:53 AM
How many people have to "accidently die" before people stop doing stupid s**t???!!!
Posted by: Momoffour Location: Lone Grove on Aug 18, 2008 at 08:47 AM
My prayers go out to the families of all involved as well as all first responders, police officers, and firefighters.
Posted by: Blair on Aug 18, 2008 at 08:47 AM
I hope the father is charged with something. This is unacceptable. As a father he should not have been allowing this to go on. Now another family has to suffer for his negligence. I pray for the other family in their time of loss.
Posted by: me Location: oklahoma on Aug 18, 2008 at 08:07 AM
oh this is so sad, I feel for these families, the poor man who was only letting the boys have a little fun, I now how some of you will get on here and condeme the poor man, but we all do stupid stuff, my prayers and blessing go out to these families.
Posted by: Longhorn Location: Lone Grove on Aug 18, 2008 at 01:53 AM
Prayers be with the family. Thanks to all the Lone Grove Firefighters, Southern Ok Ambulance, Lone Grove Police, and CCSO.
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