Teen Driving Bill to go before Texas Legislature this month

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Posted: 5:57 PM Jan 2, 2009
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GRAYSON COUNTY, Tex. ―Texas leads the nation in teen auto fatalities. Now state leaders and concerned citizens are working to prevent these tragic accidents. Rashi Vats has more.

Texas State Representative Larry Phillips and a team of state officials are working on what they call the "Teen Driving Bill," a measure they hope will save lives, and one that originated in Texoma.

The deaths of two teens in auto accidents in 2007 shocked residents of Pottsboro into action.

"Concerned citizens said, ‘Hey, what can we do to change laws or get involved with helping out to make sure our children are safe?" State Representative Larry Phillips says.

Results just back from a study done by the State Transportation Commission show Texas led the nation in teen driving accidents.

Pottsboro Police Chief Brett Arterburn says too many of those crashes happen in his city limits, so the community stepped up to raise awareness of the dangers of teen driving by forming an organization called "Less Tears, More Years" and by proposing the Teen Driving Bill.

"This bill is trying to find ways that we at the state can insure that our teens have the best chance of succeeding as a driver," Phillips says.

"We are going to increase requirements of driving experience before they actually get that license including some night driving. Night driving is one of the most dangerous times for teens to drive."

The proposed bill would also make it tougher for teens to get a driver's license by:

•increasing hours of driving experience
•requiring night driving practice
•tightening requirements for parent teaching.
•school districts would also be required to offer driver education and traffic safety courses each year.

"This is what we've been looking forward to for a couple of years, and a whole group has been working hard to get to this point. It’s a huge step for us and Representative Phillips did a great job in writing the bill and getting it to where it’s currently at," Chief Arterburn said.

Representative Phillips will present the bill to the House when the Texas Legislature reconvenes January 13. He says we should know if the bill passes by April.

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Posted by: Peter S. Chamberlain Location: Commerce, TX on Jan 24, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Interesting article. Found following link from another article on Legislature in Dallas Morning News. Must look up Bill No., any Senate sponsor, other cosponsors, etc. Have posted comments on Less Tears, More Years Web site.

Posted by: Theresa Location: Texas on Jan 13, 2009 at 06:25 PM
I think this is an awesome program! My nephew was killed by a drunk driver and not a day goes by that we don't think it could have been prevented! Brett, we used to go to church together in high school and I think you did a fantastic job getting this off the ground! Hats off to you!

Posted by: here Location: gone on Jan 13, 2009 at 03:37 PM
You know I paid for all my children to take drivers ed after school and even waited about 6 more months then what i needed to let them take it. We let them drive on back roads and practice backing up and the whole 9 then when i put them in class and let them drive with me they did everything they was suppose to THEN LOW AND BEHOLD GUESS WHAT HAPPEND!!!! THEY GET THERE LICENSE AND THINK THEY ARE THE KING OR QUEEN OF DRIVING YA my son had an accident 4 days after his license and guess what he had 3 other people with him rushing back to work and had a wreck NO TICKET OR NOTHING. put it this way he got a ticket at home grounded from driving and everything else...

Posted by: TX Mom on Jan 12, 2009 at 01:03 PM
It would have been nice for parents to home school the kids on Drivers Ed, if they would actually do it. Some do, but a bunch of them just sign off and do not really require the kid to do the required drive time. To Who Knows, You're just ignorant. You say that it "serves them right"!? Did it ever occur to you that it might serve YOU right if some kid not taught to drive properly hits YOUR family? You are self-righteous, cruel and not nearly as smart as you think you are. The remark you made about those children in Pottsboro is inexcusable. You ought to be ashamed of yourself, but from your subsequent comments, it is clear that you are not. What you call "idiotic", schools have offered in the past and would provide better oversight into the drive time actually practiced by potential drivers. Obviously, a high IQ and/or insight are not required for engineers.

Posted by: Mary Location: Sherman, TX on Jan 10, 2009 at 08:47 PM
Driver's License at age 18, no exceptions like the hardship license and more hours of training. Of course, you will still have those too inmature to drive. I hope the Legislature will pass alot stricter rules for the teens. I know some kids get their license and they can't read above the elementary level.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 8, 2009 at 12:33 PM
TO:Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:02 AM - HERE...HERE! Driving is a privledge, not a God given right. It is not the responsibilty of our school system to provide the training. If you intend to have your teen drive, be a responsible parent and provide the training yourself or through a paid course. Sure the laws to receive a license should be tougher, but their are to many lazy parents out there. The schools can't take on the liability of drivers ed. Parents would sue the schools left and right over every little fender bender out there.

Posted by: teach Location: here on Jan 8, 2009 at 08:42 AM
I have taught driver's ed for MANY years. You can TEACH them, but you can't MAKE them make the correct decisions when they are behind the wheel. I have even failed a couple of students because all they did in class was sleep- parents were FURIOUS- at the KID!! The drawback of my job is losing a student, then being blamed by the parents because their kid went to sleep, drove drunk, crashed while speeding, etc... Please explain to ME how I was responsible....when I did ALL that I was supposed to do- probably more...WHO TAKES RESPONSIBILITY????

Posted by: Trouble on Jan 8, 2009 at 08:14 AM
My son is parent taught! We have been teaching him to drive for about 3 months now. I still have not let him get his permit. Even though he could have gotten it after 6hrs of class.(which i was amazed by that) I couldn't believe that after only 6hrs he could get a permit to be behind the wheel. I realize it's an instructional permit but still that seems to be such a short amount of time. So it's really up to the parents who are teaching thier own children to do it right. HOW in the world can you want the rest of us that are doing it right to pay??? Maybe we should also be thinking about the ELDERLY!! They seem to cause alot of accidents also. I have never had a wreck but have come very close and everytime it's always with an elderly person NEVER a teen!!!! Look i'm not saying teens don't act stupid because they do, but why punish the parents that are doing it right?? I can't afford to send my son to drivers ed so i chose to do it myself and do it RIGHT!!!

Posted by: Julie Location: WW Tx on Jan 7, 2009 at 04:54 PM
Driver's Ed in school is a good idea, if you get someone that knows what they are doing. When I took it in school the D E teacher was a coach and all he did was read the paper while we drove. Be careful who you get to teach the class.

Posted by: Mork Location: Ork on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:00 PM
Maybe he's a train engineer (Whoo Whoo!)

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 03:55 PM
But let's make sure all the dangerous elderly keep on the roads.

Posted by: in the know Location: Howe on Jan 6, 2009 at 03:08 PM
To Who, I assume by your comments you have done your research on teen driving? Well obviously not becuase what your boasting about is commpletely inaccurate! I don't believe your an engineer or even an adult just some kid wanting to ruffle feathers. Do some homework on the issue before you continue to waste everyones time by you proving your the real idiot. Also have you reviewed the interim study done on this subject? Have you done any research on the cost, or listened to the proposals on how to pay for it? The answer to all of these is NO. Would you through your kids out of the boat in the middle of the lake and hope they could learn to swim before they drowned, I didn't think so.

Posted by: Ralph Location: Denison on Jan 6, 2009 at 11:52 AM
To Who...being an engineer, you should realize nothing happens in a vacuum. Keeping your child safe does not only involve instructing him/her how to drive safely, but is also dependent upon others having been taught to drive safely. Since you seem to think everyone posting on this board is an idiot (well, except a smart engineer like you), you would not want any of these idiots teaching their children how to drive. Perhaps you will do it for a fee or even volunteer to share your superior knowledge and skills.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Man.."WHO KNOWS" did you eat your whaties this morning? How can you pass a bill that supports more education on teen driving? Another thing how can you drive at 15 and call other kids idiots when you at 15 driving i assume by yourself was ILLEGAL!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 6, 2009 at 09:02 AM
Driving is a privledge, not a God given right. It is not the responsibilty of our school system to provide the training. If you intend to have your teen drive, be a responsible parent and provide the training yourself or through a paid course. Sure the laws to receive a license should be tougher, but their are to many lazy parents out there. The schools can't take on the liability of drivers ed. Parents would sue the schools left and right over every little fender bender out there. Hence again, too many lazy parents out there.

Posted by: Who Location: Knows on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:40 AM
I never said anything about being perfect. I just said that it is ridiculous if you think the state or the school is going to sponsor such an idiotic proposal. Read exactly what they want to do. They want to require schools to host drivers ed. Thats more money that schools have to shell out that they don't have. Also, what will be the cost to hire drivers ed instructors to do the night driving? To much expense and not enough results. I can't help it if your kids are idiots and can't drive, all I can do is make sure mine does.

Posted by: here Location: tx on Jan 6, 2009 at 08:24 AM
I taught driver's ed for years, until our school decided to let the parents become accountable for their kid's behavior behind the wheel and their knowledge. I have seen MANY of my students die because or errors THEY made in judgement. Put the course back in school where it belongs.

Posted by: Christopher Location: Sanger on Jan 5, 2009 at 11:04 PM
I am one of those parents who has taught my own kids to drive. Of course, I really care and in the last 7 years not one of my 3 sons have had a single ticket or accident, just like their parents. I agree some parents are lack in their instructions but others like myself love and care about our kids safety and make sure they know all the rules and have many hours of practice before they get their license. I for one made my sons complete 4 times the number of hours required by the State to get their license and it took a full six months of 4 days a week training to complete it for each. I agree that the state double or even triple the required hours and also make them take the driving test. But hey how many drivers have done that and are bad drivers anyway? Some drivers are bad no matter how much instructions they receive.

Posted by: Kelly Location: Van Alstyne on Jan 5, 2009 at 11:02 PM
To Who Knows - Maybe you should check your grammar before you go talking about how smart an engineer you are. Copied from your post - then that what I will do. You are an idiot engineer. lol Just goes to show a piece of paper doesn't make you smarter than the rest of us!

Posted by: Amazed Location: Dallas on Jan 5, 2009 at 10:51 PM
First of all, who is going to fund this? Driving instructors cost on average $15 per hour... multiply that by 34 hours a kid then multiply that by high schools with 200 to 1000 15 year olds... Qualified instructors do not drive for free... Plus vehicles, insurance, Wheres the money coming from to fund this bill? Taxpayers? expense would make driver ed cost at least $1000.00. In order to properly train drivers and save lives, abolish parent taught driver ed and let the commercial schools do what they do best, teach kids affordably. On average thats about $400 per student. Parents need to stop expecting schools to do the job they should do, drive with their kids before they go at it alone.

Posted by: MC Location: Pottsboro on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:33 PM
To "Who Knows": Your comment regarding Jordan and Shelby was crass, rude and uncalled for. I don't think you are as smart as you think you are. Try checking your own grammar before you criticize others -- "Then that what I will do."

Posted by: T Location: Denison on Jan 5, 2009 at 08:58 PM
To:Who Knows The web address and story number for this article is as follows:http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/37021994.html. This is a reference for you to be able to retrieve and eat your own words whenever somthing tragic happens to you or your child in an automobile accident. Sleep tight!

Posted by: Pottsboro Mom Location: Pottsboro on Jan 5, 2009 at 08:40 PM
To Who Knows on Jan. 5 at 4:40. After 39 years on Earth, you still haven't learned when to keep your mouth shut? For you to make comments about two kids that have lost their lives in horrible ACCIDENTS really shows what kind of person you are. These families, as well as the community of Pottsboro are still hurting. If you really knew what you were talking about, you would know that Jordan wasn't even the driver, she was the passenger! And I know for a fact, Shelby's parents put in ALOT of hours teaching her to drive safely. Unfortunately Accidents Happen! I do hope in your perfect world, that you never have to feel the pain of your child being seriously hurt or losing his life and then reading such heartless comments on the web from people who don't have a clue.

Posted by: R.U. Location: Kidding on Jan 5, 2009 at 07:08 PM
1 on putting driver ed back in the classroom and away from the parents. Driving tests administered by DPS should be required for teens, AND people over the age of 60 periodically. You know what I'm talking about....blue hairs driving a big old Buick with a chrome fish stuck on the trunk lid. For that matter, anyone with a hadicrapped plate goes double.

Posted by: I Location: know on Jan 5, 2009 at 06:35 PM
To who knows, you have got to be the stupidist engineer around. Since you and your son are so perfect, I hope you are not on the road with the rest of us idiot kids because the kids are not the only ones who get hurt. Use some common sense

Posted by: Who Location: Knows on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:40 PM
Actually Bill, I am an engineer who laughs at the inability of locals like yourself who can't spell, and can barely compose a sentence. Spend the money on education. If the parents don't want to shell out the money for better training, then it serves them right if something happens to your kid. I, myself, will fight this as hard as possible because I don't want to pay for your idiot kid who doesn't know how to drive. I do everything I can to keep my kid safe, and if that is teaching my son how to drive, then that what I will do. 39 years on Earth and I have been driving since the age of 15. How many wrecks have I caused? ZERO. Why, because I actually paid attention in Drivers Education unlike Shelby or Jordan, apparently.

Posted by: Bill Location: Denison on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:22 PM
To Who jan5 3:08 AND Anonymouse Jan5 at 1:35, What is the dill with you guys must be kids. Stop playing on the net and go to school. Thats all we need more kids that think they know everything. Thats how this got started. One drive around the block and kids think they can drive like ricky bobby LOL

Posted by: MC Location: Pottsboro on Jan 5, 2009 at 04:11 PM
As parents and residents of Texas, we should all be concerned about the level and quality of instruction that teenage drivers receive prior to getting a driver's license. At a minimum, kids should be required to pass a driving test to ensure that they have the basic skills and judgment needed to operate a car. This will go a long way toward keeping all of us safe on the highways. This will be an investment in the future of all Texans, not just teen drivers. I hope this bill passes and Texas Legislators regain a little common sense. The attention to this issue comes at a very high price to the families and friends of Shelby and Jordan. Our Pottsboro community was devastated by their loss.

Posted by: Who Location: Knows on Jan 5, 2009 at 03:08 PM
Do you idiots actually think that your opinion matters? I bet you that if it costs the state a penny, you can bet that it won't pass.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 01:35 PM
Get a life people. Nobody cares what you think!

Posted by: Parent of 2 Location: Texas on Jan 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM
I strongly believe as well that the parents should not be the driving instructor for their teen. I am 42 and I have never had a ticket but I did not want to be the one to teach my teenagers the rules of the road, I wanted a professional to do it. I know parents who cheated on that just so their kid could get a license. Also, I believe the age limit needs to be increased. I know a lot of 16 year olds and they are not mature enough to be on the road! I think the age should be 18.

Posted by: Long haired country boy Location: Fannin County on Jan 5, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Most Fannin County schools still offer Driver's Ed. I remember the old films they showed us, such as BLOOD ON THE HIGHWAY. I think that more training could only help save some lives of our valuable teenagers.

Posted by: Mike Location: Sherman on Jan 5, 2009 at 10:06 AM
I believe we should put driver's ed back in the schools where it belongs. This is the only way it can be administered and monitored so that we know we are teaching them all in a consistent manner. How something as important as this was deemed too expensive to provide is shocking. The costs in safety and lives has reached a higher level than having this program in schools. The films should be shown in general assembly, right before lunch, like they did to most of us. Those images went a long way to causing kids to actually think about the possible outcomes of what could happen when they got behind the wheel.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:46 AM
tp opinionated in ardmore: im not sure what you are bragging about okies suck at driving.

Posted by: Kim Location: Southmayd on Jan 5, 2009 at 09:30 AM
I personally think that driver's ed shld be in the school and the parents teaching it shld not be an option at all. I didn't teach my kiddos cause I wanted them to learn correctly. I think when I was in school it was 75.00 and we did it all right there. We have to make it better for these kids and I hope they will pass it.

Posted by: GP Location: SHERMAN on Jan 5, 2009 at 08:44 AM
WE TOOK DRIVERS ED WHEN WE WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL AND HAD TO PASS THE WRITTEN AND THE DRIVING PART OF THE COURSE AND STILL HAD TO PASS DRIVING TEST AT THE DOT TO GET OUR LICENSE,THAT IS NOT TO SAY THE COURSE WILL PREVENT ALL ACCIDENTS BUT THE COURSE WILL MAKE KIDS MORE AWARE AND MAYBE PREVENT SOME OF THEM.I HAVE FAMILY THAT WAS IN A WRECK DUE TO THE PHONE NOT THEIR FAULT OTHER DRIVER WAS TEXTING WHILE DRIVING THIS SHOULD BE OUTLAWED FOR ALL NOT JUST YOUNG DRIVERS

Posted by: diane Location: trenton on Jan 4, 2009 at 06:26 PM
I personally think that it needs to be alot tougher to get a drivers license and the age limit should be raised.They just are not reponsible enough.Too many teenagers are trying to send text messages and drive or they are talking on their cell phones or even changing the radio station. Life is so fragile and it only takes one mistake and its over.

Posted by: Mork Location: Ork on Jan 4, 2009 at 03:03 PM
I think anyone under the age of 30 should have a full roll cage, crash helmet, and a HANS device. Right on!!!

Posted by: Opinionated Location: Ardmore on Jan 4, 2009 at 11:10 AM
In Oklahoma, to get your permit, you have to have Drivers Ed.

Posted by: Bill Location: Ardmore on Jan 4, 2009 at 06:53 AM
I agree that kids should have to pass a written and driving test to get a license. I started driving wiht my dad at age 9, then took drivers ed in school where the teachers main goal was to see how many of the girls he could sit by to put his hands on them. I am 55 now and have had 2 accidents in my life, neither of which were my fault. Thanks to people like wildeyeddriver, the state and insurance companies I cant teach my daughter to drive with out risking a ticket for both of us. Make them take the test, but keep the state out of the business of raising my children.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Whitesboro on Jan 3, 2009 at 06:14 PM
I took drivers ed in school so it was not a burden for someone to have to get me to the driving school or anything. Why dont they bring it back into the school as a class like it was then. I agree, too many bad drivers are passing off their bad driving to their kids!!!

Posted by: Barbara Location: Sherman on Jan 3, 2009 at 02:47 PM
It will not matter if they increase the practice requirements without some kind of accountability. Parents will sign that they have done the instruction regardless of what they have really done. We should go back to the drivers education classes because almost every 16 year old is getting a liscence without any kind of real instruction or guidance.

Posted by: rickmc11 Location: Commerce on Jan 3, 2009 at 12:39 PM
to Wildeyeddriver: You're right that letting parents "teach" their children to drive is a bad thing, however, it does not preclude them from taking the test. The worst thing for parents and teenagers was when they took drivers ed out of the high schools. Many parents have no choice but to teach their kids to drive because the expense of having an independent drivers training school is cost prohibitive; upwards of $250. I also agree that more practical training is necessary such as night driving. More structured time behind the wheel is necessary. This being said, many teenagers work or have other activities that make getting them to places a hardship if both parents work. THAT is why parents push for their kids to get a license as soon as possible. They never think about that when they have to identify the body.

Posted by: gary Location: sheran on Jan 3, 2009 at 12:12 PM
well keep the kids of there cell phones and no tex messages

Posted by: ra Location: tx on Jan 3, 2009 at 09:59 AM
As a parent of a 15 year old who is learning to drive, of course, I want her to learn to drive safely. I have been surprised at the ease of getting a driver's license. She has passed the written test and now has her learner's permit. As her parent teacher I am doing my best to teach her safe driving habits. I think parents can teach their children to drive safely. I'm not sure that taking a driving test assures that anyone will drive safely. It's up to the driver to practice safe driving habits. I can't believe how unsafe some adult drivers behave on the roadway. Just drove hwy 82 from Fannin to Grayson county yesterday. Unbelievable the number of people speeding and passing when it clearly was not safe.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 3, 2009 at 09:39 AM
Texas leads the country in the number of teen traffic fatalities... maybe because we have more TEENS than any other state? DUH!

Posted by: thatswhatimtalkinabout Location: sherman on Jan 3, 2009 at 07:53 AM
I went through the state required course when I started driving. SMALL price to pay for proper driving education!!

Posted by: The"REAL WORLD" Location: Red River on Jan 3, 2009 at 05:45 AM
I have always thought that everyone should have to take the driving test every 5 years. There are a lot of drivers on the road who cannot drive. Speeding, driving in the turn lane, not dimming your bright lights, driving in the passing lane, tailgating, putting make up on while driving, or just being plain unskilled at driving.I was run off the road by a lady dailing her cell phone. Time for all to be accountable.

Posted by: John Location: Sherman on Jan 2, 2009 at 10:39 PM
I agree with you wildey, except on one thing. You said the parents pass off their bad driving skills to the kids, but in a lot of situations that I've observed, many times the parents don't even set foot in the car with their child, they don't enforce the book they are given to learn by, and usually just sign the paper to get the child their driver's license as soon as feasible. This is what has caused so many accidents with young drivers, and it has to stop!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 2, 2009 at 09:02 PM
Things went downhill when they took driver's ed out of the schools. They scared they crud out of us with the gruesome films that showed actual BAD accidents. I agree that parents are also not teaching their children how to drive correctly by speeding, road raging, flipping the bird, etc... Many people can not afford the cost of driver's education.

Posted by: kelly on Jan 2, 2009 at 07:24 PM
are yall saying you don`t have to take a driving test to get a license in texas???no wonder texas people are such lousy drivers...

Posted by: Concerned parent Location: Sherman on Jan 2, 2009 at 06:59 PM
In view of last week's tragic accident, with a 15 year old rolling a vehicle, while trying to light a cigarette, I wholly support tighter laws for our teen drivers. I want them, as well as the rest of us on the road, to be safe.

Posted by: Me Location: Sherman on Jan 2, 2009 at 06:54 PM
Hey I signed off on my kids driving part of the test simply because getting in to even take that test is a pain!! You have to call first thing and if you're lucky you will get an appointment but they wouldn't do it in the afternoon after school. My oldest has been driving for just over 5 years and guess what???? Not one problem!! No accidents or tickets or anything so wildeyeddriver your statement doesn't hold true for all. However, I do agree they need to do something. Some teens think driving is a joy ride and it makes me sick! Also my kids know if they ever get a ticket for speeding or no seatbelts or anything they could have prevented they would never drive my car again. It's one strike and you're out for my kids!!

Posted by: Wildeyeddriver Location: Sherman on Jan 2, 2009 at 06:06 PM
the worst thing this state EVER did was let parents sign off on their kids getting a license - NOT making it mandatory to take the state driving test. I've seen how some of these parents drive and they just pass it on to their kids - bad habits, attitudes, etc. Make the kids take the road test and be failed if they can't do it right. We made our kid, 6 years, not one accident, ticket. Not like most of her friends - speeding tix, knocking down mailboxes, etc. Driving is a privilege given by the state not the parents, and the state should have final say in who gets a license.

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