Okla. personhood bill backers fail to get hearing

By: From Wire Reports
By: From Wire Reports

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - An attempt to force a vote in the Oklahoma House on legislation that would grant fertilized human eggs in Oklahoma the rights and privileges of residents has failed.

The Senate-passed personhood bill has not been scheduled for a hearing in the House. But Rep. Mike Reynolds of Oklahoma City moved Wednesday evening to suspend House rules and allow the personhood bill to be immediately debated and voted on.

House Speaker Pro Tem Jeff Hickman of Dacoma, who was presiding over the chamber, ruled that Reynolds' motion was out of order. Hickman says any new business heard by the House must be scheduled with House Floor Leader Dale DeWitt of Braman.

House Speaker Kris Steele of Shawnee says a majority of the Republican caucus has privately voted against hearing the bill.

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  • by Anonymous on May 7, 2012 at 06:18 AM
    Why don't we outlaw masturbation? Doesn't that kill live sperm cells? Isn't that considered the start of life? We should outlaw this too.
  • by Biffco Location: Sherman on May 7, 2012 at 05:56 AM
    Abortion and gay marriage. Why do you think these issues only come onto the radar during an election year? Maybe because Republicans just want to introduce "issues" that cause emotional reactions and make the working class continue to vote for people and legislation that keep bleeding them financially and do not have their best interests at heart? Just watch. After November, these "issues" will disappear and won't be heard about again until the next election cycle.
  • by Jer on May 2, 2012 at 08:52 AM
    Sonograms should be outlawed as an invasion of privacy of fertilized egg persons.
  • by Fozzy Location: Ardmore on Apr 30, 2012 at 05:38 AM
    This is just another attempt by the American Taliban to rule the people using their bronze age nuttery.
  • by Doc Location: Durant on Apr 27, 2012 at 02:29 PM
    I am sickened when I think of abortion. However, this personhood bill is not good legislation in my opinion.
  • by Anonymous on Apr 27, 2012 at 11:04 AM
    Physical life begins at the moment of conception, not at birth. There is nothing religious, republican, or debate about it. For whatever motive you might have to kill someone, it is as simple as irrepairably disrupting the biological process that begins at conception. It does'nt matter if you put a coat hanger through the heart of a fetus, or a bullet through the heart of a adult, it is the same process. For a couple to kill an unborn child simply because they don't want it there is like killing your neighbor because you don't want him in the neighborhood.
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      by Joey on Apr 27, 2012 at 08:49 PM in reply to
      So, your position is that you are not just opposed to a woman having the right to choose with respect to abortion, but you are also opposed to women using birth control pills. It is important that every American understands what you personhood advocates are actually pushing, because your rhetoric seems to always exclusively focus upon abortion, yet sidesteps the birth control pill aspect of these personhood proposals. Why is that?
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        by Anonymous on Apr 30, 2012 at 04:32 AM in reply to Joey
        Already answered your question. Best birth control is abstinence.
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          by Joey on Apr 30, 2012 at 08:24 AM in reply to
          The BEST birth control may very well be abstinece, but humans never have nor ever will limit their options to only the "best" no matter subject. Whether it's a car, a house, or a tomato, not everyone chooses the best, in fact most don't. Nevertheless, it does in deed appear you want to outlaw the birth control pill. So don't be so timid in speaking those words. Afterall, the best way to make your point is to actually say what you mean, and not shroud it. So putting a coat hanger through the heart of a fetus, putting a bullet through the heart of an adult, and taking a birth control pill are morally one in the same process? BTW, has there already been a Pope Anonymous, or will you be the first?
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        by Logic on Apr 30, 2012 at 06:41 AM in reply to Joey
        Because only the wealthy elite can afford In-Vitro Fertilization...a process which discards 15-20 fertilized eggs for each egg implanted. It is in their interest that we don't define a fertilized egg as a person, otherwise someone might call them murderers!
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        by Anonymous on Apr 30, 2012 at 10:12 AM in reply to Joey
        My position is, when a man and woman crawl into a bed together, THEY (not just the woman) have exercised all the freedom of choice they are entitled to, and should BOTH be bound by the consequences of their actions. Abortion is not about freedom of choice, or even birth control. It is about a lack of responsibility.
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          by Joey on Apr 30, 2012 at 04:36 PM in reply to
          So it's by your pronouncement that once they crawl into bed together "they" have exercised all freedom of choice to which they are entitled? By that reasoning therefore, if the woman chooses to take birth control pills prior to "crawling into bed", then she should be entitled to have the expectation (at least a 99% expectation) of not getting pregnant. However, your personhood idea wouild deny her the right to prevent pregnancy via the use of the pill. While one could reasonably argue that choosing abortion to end an unwanted pregnancy is an irresponsible response, choosing to use the pill to prevent an unwanted pregnancy would appear to be a demonstration of great responsibility. Your philosophical position is not only shared by a relatively small minority of Americans, but in practice, a huge segment of American women (single and married) actually take birth control pills. You would deny them that right. Therefore, you are not only in the extreme minority, but also in the same nut jar as Rick Santorum et al.
  • by Jer on Apr 27, 2012 at 10:42 AM
    Shirthood for cotton balls!
  • by Logic on Apr 26, 2012 at 02:43 PM
    Republicans again running from their draconian, ridiculous legislation. Thats 3 news stories today of conservative ideaology being defeated! I am going to sleep like a baby tonight! LOL!
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      by Jason on Apr 26, 2012 at 07:36 PM in reply to Logic
      Right because protecting the life of the unborn is ridiculous. You're sick.
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        by Logic on Apr 27, 2012 at 07:38 AM in reply to Jason
        Republicans said it wasn't about preventing abortions or protecting the unborn...just "making a statement". How do you feel about that? In Oklahoma, it's preaching to the choir! As if we don't already know that Republicans and Religion have merged long ago..who were they trying to get to listen to this statement? Regardless, the Republicans themselves shot this one down..not me man. So if they can't even go forward with defining a fetus as a person among themselves, how do you think they can make abortion illegal one day? You can rest assured they will continue to keep the issue alive to dangle in front of you, giving them the appearance that they REALLY care! They may need your support the next time someone hollers WMD! and we gotta go to war! BTW..I don't "support" abortions. And I never met anyone in all the liberal blogs I frequent that does. I hope we can provide enough education and contraception to prevent it from ever happening...don't you? And how do you feel about In-Vitro Fertilization? You support that?
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        by Bill on Apr 27, 2012 at 08:01 AM in reply to Jason
        And you're an idiot and uneducated.
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          by Rob on Apr 28, 2012 at 02:40 PM in reply to Bill
          Why is he an idiot? And how do you know he's uneducated? Sounds like an empty statement to me.
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        by Joey on Apr 27, 2012 at 09:57 AM in reply to Jason
        Please, Jason. These personhood bills would essentially make it illegal to use birth control pills. Protecting the unborn, huh? the righties want the government totally involved in ones life from the moment of conception, but completely out of it from the moment of birth. Well, unless you want to use the pill.
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          by Logic on Apr 27, 2012 at 05:24 PM in reply to Joey
          I think its more about the In-Vitro Fertilization, a process which discards 15-20 fertilized eggs for each egg they can successfully get to attach in the womb. It is VERY expensive to get and only the affluent and wealthy can afford to do. Guess which party the majority of the affluent and wealthy belong to in Oklahoma? So they painted themselves into a corner. What this whole story really tells me is that Oklahoma is at the mercy of politicians who attempt legislation based on knee-jerk reactions without really analyzing the consequences. Wonder if they will get open-carry to pass? Wouldn't matter to me, but they really are wanting to roll things back to the Wild West...when you could lynch someone with impunity and justice was the guy with fastest gun! Bring back swinging saloon doors and I'd go to Oklahoma more often actually!
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          by Jason on Apr 28, 2012 at 02:44 PM in reply to Joey
          I'm perfectly fine for birth control to be illegal. Best birth control is abstinence. I agree that the government needs to get involved at conception. So? How do you get that conservatives don't want government involved?
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      by Anonymous on Apr 27, 2012 at 11:03 AM in reply to Logic
      A baby that was'nt aborted...........
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