Local police chase policies examined Save Email Print
Posted: 6:55 PM May 14, 2008
Last Updated: 6:55 PM May 14, 2008
Reporter: Robin Beal
Email Address: robin.beal@kxii.com

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ARDMORE, Okla. -- You see them all the time in the movies and on TV, but they are real and they do happen, even here in Texoma. There have been two high-speed police chases in just the last few days. First News reporter Robin Beal spent the morning looking into exactly how our local law enforcement is trained to deal with a suspect who just won't stop.

With the Texas side seeing two high speed chases in just the last few days and a chase last month in love county, we thought it would be a good idea to find out exactly what some departments' chase policies are.

Ardmore’s police chief enacted a policy just this month which specifically outlines who can be chased and under what circumstances. Dave Leonardo says there has been a nationwide trend in recent years to re-emphasize public safety, and he's right.

Dallas and Houston both retooled their departments' chase policies in 2006. The one Ardmore now has is very similar in principle to those major cities and allows vehicle pursuits only in the case of violent crimes.

Minor offenders may now be allowed to flee, but the chief says that does not mean a get out of jail free card if you choose to run from the cops.

"Well certainly people should not read that into it. And I’ll give you an example of one we've already had this week. An individual drove through a school zone at an excessive speed. An officer went to stop them, and they took off and the officer weighed the factors, considered the new policy, and decided not to make a pursuit. But he had a description of the vehicle and when he attempted to make a traffic stop, he had the tag number," Ardmore Police Chief David Leonardo says.

You can guess what happened next. That individual later received a visit at home from the Ardmore police.

So what about other departments?

The Sherman Police Department has a policy which allows more officer discretion in when to pursue, but also holds them accountable if they do choose to go after someone.

All the local agencies I spoke with today said the same thing again and again- public safety is always their number one concern in initiating any chase.

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Posted by: a.a.s. Location: ardmore on May 18, 2008 at 04:53 PM
The only thing that is going to change this ridiculous policy is to call or write your city council members. Let them know that this gives the drug dealers, child molesters and thieves the impression that the officer's hands are tied. This policy allows criminals to take advantage of what the city manager and chief are worried about what MIGHT OR COULD happen. Let them know that it does not decrease liability but transfers liability back to the police in a different way. If they don't chase and someone still gets hurt or killed because of what they DIDN'T DO, they are going to be sued anyway. Damned if they do and damned if they don't, but if they don't, the criminals have the upper hand and will be ruling this town. Not only that, the policy is telling officers to break state law when it comes to assisting other depts. that chase suspects into Ardmore. When an officer asked for help, and A.P.D. can't help, it is a violation of state law.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Ardmore on May 18, 2008 at 09:53 AM
I think boo-boo may be friends with the police chief. The city manager and police chief are golf buddies like the fire chief is. The city manager blows so much smoke up everyones back side they cough smoke. Plus the city council only backs someone who is friends of the city manager and that is why the city has lost several good police officers and firefighters to other agencies because of the politics and poor management from the city coucil down to the chiefs.

Posted by: A.A.S. Location: Ardmore on May 18, 2008 at 02:01 AM
I don't believe Ardmore has one of the highest crime rates in the nation. If so, then wouldn't it make more sense to be able to put offenders in jail rather than let them go because of what MIGHT happen. IF it is true, then maybe our department should hire more officers so that the ones they have don't have to work themselves to death. I am friends with one and all they do is answer calls, with not very much time to actually prevent crimes instead of going around pickup up after the criminals. They also need to pay them more so that maybe some will stay. If the chief continues to make the police work so restricted and make up whatever rules he wants, they will all leave. Morale has been a major issue with the old chiefs. This chief was suppose to be hired to make it a better place to work for the officers, instead he has made matters worse for them. It don't help that the city council members have the head up the city manager's butt so far that they don't know what's going on.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 17, 2008 at 06:23 PM
Time for the Ardmore Pd FOP to oust the police chief. Cant have a leader if thats all their going to do is lie.

Posted by: Ardmore Resident Location: Ardmore on May 16, 2008 at 08:05 PM
Actually I havent seen the 20/20 episode. We are not there..YOU ARE JUST AS CRAZY AND STUPID AS CHIEF LEONARDO.

Posted by: boo-boo Location: Ardmore on May 16, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Apparently you never saw the 20/20 episode that listed Ardmore with the highest crime rate per capita in the US. We're already there.

Posted by: A.A.S. Location: Ardmore on May 16, 2008 at 01:09 AM
Hey Boo Boo: I guess you are happy that Califonia state supreme court just announced that GAY MARRIAGE IS LEGAL. So I guess since L.A. and California thinks it is okay, then we should all turn gay and get married too. What are you thinking. Its comparing apples to oranges. The law enforcement there is right. It isn't thier fault. It is the person that they are chasing who is at fault. Police don't make people do bad things. Police only respond to the bad things people do and try to correct it by putting thier butts in jail. If you are so happy about how L.A. does things, then go back there and live happily ever after.

Posted by: Ardmore Resident Location: Ardmore on May 15, 2008 at 05:48 PM
Why should the chief read a report, he has about 30 ranking officers under him to give him the correct information for him to relay to the citizens of Ardmore. Or maybe his "chosen" ranking officers didn't do a very good job. Whatever the case if the chief purposely LIED to the citizens or intentionally LIED. The fact still remains that he did indeed LIE. And was indeed exposed. WE DO NOT NEED LIARS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT!!!! But, I guess you cant expect much more when you have a city manager who not only allows this...and city commissioners who obviously DO NOT have a clue what they have brought in to this community.

Posted by: ANTI CHIEF Location: Ardmore on May 15, 2008 at 05:32 PM
Boo-Boo.This is not Los Angeles this is Ardmore, We do not have the population of Los Angeles nor Arizona. We do not have high speed pursuits everyday. Due to several policies that have been changed it is clearly understandable why the chief was forced to resign or was fired. The Chief need to recognize what he is doing to the officers hurts their performance, morale, and their confidence in what they do. There is enough of that with the criminals they deal with everyday. There is no need for the Chief to add to it. Let these officers do their job, they do a fine job at it. As far as the individuals on the 3rd floor, We know you back the chief 100 percent, and will agree no matter what. That is how you got to the 3rd floor in the first place. Officers the good, law abiding citizens love you and back you no matter what. KEEP FIGHTING FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN! ALSO BOO-BOO...WITH THE POLICIES THE WAY THEY ARE...WE WILL HAVE THE CRIME RATE OF LOS ANGELES!!!!

Posted by: boo-boo Location: here on May 15, 2008 at 01:29 PM
I lived in Los Angeles and have watched many chases end up tragically with loss of life and property. The city always responded to the victims by telling them that they were not responsible for life and property damage due to a high speed pursuit. How can you tell a family member that lost a loved one due to an officer chasing somebody through traffic that it is not your fault and you refuse to pay or compensate for their loss? I think that law enforcement should be held accountable if they are not going to use common sense and make the responsible choice not to chase them when so many are at risk. I agree with the Chiefs decision.

Posted by: FatBoy Location: Ardmore on May 15, 2008 at 12:49 PM
So this is how it works...I have a ton of drugs or guns or whatever in my car. I do something to draw the attention of the police who try to pull me over. But the problem is, I don’t want to go to jail...so I run, well guess what, when the cop is out of site the first thing I’m going to do is ditch the guns, drugs, dead body...whatever, so now when the police do by some miracle find my car (assuming the tags on the car were not fake) now I get in trouble for the traffic violation and fleeing from the police (if they can prove it was me driving at the time). Sounds like a good trade off for guns/drug/or many other charges...This whole policy just doesn’t make since to me. Why don’t we just make the police do their job without carrying a firearm? After all if they ever did have to use a gun somebody may get hurt…and that’s just too much of a risk for the city of Ardmore to take.

Posted by: cop4life Location: Ardmore on May 15, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Oh and by the way, the chief also stated on KTEN that Oklahoma City adopted this policy. This is a flat out lie. They do have a pursuit policy as most departments do, but it is not as strict as this one. I have spoken to some Oklahoma City officers and they laughed when they heard about this new Ardmore policy. They thought it was a joke. Again, the chief is playing politics and has once again made untrue comments to the viewers. He is telling citizens what he wants them to hear and not what is reality. A good politian can twist and manipulate the truth to fit his own agenda.

Posted by: cop4life Location: Ardmore on May 15, 2008 at 11:05 AM
I just saw the KTEN footage of this story. The chief misled viewers by saying that officer tried to stop a car from speeding through a school zone. That is not true. The car sped through the school zone even after the officer turned off his lights and stopped trying to stop the offender. Then there was no license plate, so he could not have known whose car it was. How many crooks actually do what they are supppose to and register vehicles in thier own name? or don't even get thier cars registered. How many of you go to the tag agent and update your address on your car tags when you move? The crooks sure don't. If the car is stolen, then what are the police to do? Go to the registered owners house and arrest the owner? The police have to know who the driver is, not who the car is registered to. The chief is trying to pull the wool over our citizens eyes by the comments he has made.

Posted by: cop4life Location: Ardmore on May 15, 2008 at 01:14 AM
The Ardmore Police Chief obviously didn't even read his own officer's report or he intentionally misled the readers to fit his agenda. Maybe the media should read this police report and see what really happened. It is not that he just got a tag number, because there wasn't one. The officer just happened to find the car later at a known drug house and find the people inside. As far as "cwj's" comments is concerned: Don't get the chief's opinions and views mixed up with the rest of Ardmore PD, because most if not all the officers are not pleased with this policy and other changes he has made.

Posted by: Kenny Location: Carter County S.O. on May 15, 2008 at 01:03 AM
Ok, the story that was told by the Chief is not entirely true. I am a deputy sheriff and I assisted on this call. I was there when the car was recovered. The reason we new it was the same car was after we ran the VIN number and it came back as stolen we found the suspects hiding in a closet inside the house. Think about it. The story doesn't make sense. If we would have had the tag number we would have known it was stolen. It was a paper tag and you couldn't even read the name on it. Plus, since it was stolen the tag wouldn't have came back to the address where it was found. The officer that found this car was doing his job. He was patroling and found this car. I assisted him along with other Ardmore officers. It was old fashioned police work not a tag number.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Sherman on May 14, 2008 at 10:51 PM
That is all fine but what happens when they get the license plate of this person and the car as been stolen and they go to this persons house to arrest this person and it the wrong person

Posted by: cwj Location: texoma on May 14, 2008 at 08:20 PM
I applaud Ardmore PD. As a law enforcement officer in the metroplex I cringe when I see pursuits on the news like I have the past two days. I would hate to see good officers get sued because they killed an innocent person while chasing a drug dealer or a person who committed a traffic violation. Sometimes you have to ask yourself if the risk is worth the reward.

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