Dated 911 emergency system a hot topic in Healdton Save Email Print
Posted: 6:30 PM Jul 15, 2008
Last Updated: 11:00 PM Jul 15, 2008
Reporter: Robin Beal
Email Address: robin.beal@kxii.com

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HEALDTON, Okla. -- When you need to dial 911, you don't think about how it works, you just expect help to respond. But voters in Healdton will soon be forced to think about the technical details of their emergency call system when they go to the polls on July 29.

How 911 calls are handled in Healdton has been an ongoing topic for some time. We know of at least two other instances when the question has appeared on the ballot and failed.

So what is the city using right now to answer 911 calls, and why does the county want them to switch over?

The unit at the center of the debate looks more like a vintage video game system, with a dated monochrome screen. When somebody calls 911 in Healdton from a landline, their name and address pops up for the dispatcher to see.

Critics say it is old technology, and that they cannot even make audio recordings of emergency calls. But longtime supporters of Healdton’s system say those shortcomings are exaggerated, and that the county 911 people are just after more money.

"The system that we have for dispatching when somebody calls 911, it is obsolete. They can't find parts for it. We have one dispatcher that also doubles as a jailer. If they're in the back, the phones might not get answered right away," Herb Collier with the Healdton Industrial Development Authority says.

If passed, the average Healdton home phone bill would increase about 19 cents per month.

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Posted by: cheri Location: healdton on Aug 4, 2008 at 01:54 PM
this is for honey bunches- why should anyone have to move? Why dont the City of Healdton council do something productive and change the police department. It is sad and I am embarrassed to say that I hope to NEVER have to depend on the Healdton Police Department- and if I do, I will not call while the morning dispatcher is on duty..

Posted by: my thoughts Location: healdton on Aug 3, 2008 at 10:36 PM
I'm the other "my thoughts" on here and I'm not miserable either, sick of the same bs as MY THOUGHTS. Also,have you tried to sell a house in Healdton, NO ONE wants to live here

Posted by: MY THOUGHTS on Aug 1, 2008 at 09:59 PM
I'M NOT MISERABLE, JUST SICK OF THE BS THAT THE CITY OF HEALDTON DOES. I DONT KNOW FOR SURE, BUT THE OTHER "my thoughts" ON THIS COMMENT PAGE HOWEVER MAY BE A MISERABLE PERSON, I CANT SPEAK FOR THAT PERSON. BUT THANKS FOR BEING CONCERNED ABOUT MY WELFARE.

Posted by: Honey Bunches Location: Healdton on Aug 1, 2008 at 04:50 PM
I feel so sorry for you My Thoughts. What a miserable person you are. If I was so unhappy I think I would just pack up and move. Hwy 76 goes north and south. Take your pick.

Posted by: MY THOUGHTS on Jul 30, 2008 at 05:21 AM
"The system that we have for dispatching when somebody calls 911, it is obsolete. They can't find parts for it. We have one dispatcher that also doubles as a jailer. If they're in the back, the phones might not get answered right away," (HERE IS A REMINDER OF WHAT THE CITY THOUGHT ABOUT YOUR SYSTEM YOU WANTED TO KEEP! DO YOU FEEL SAFE???)KUDOS TO YOU IDIOTS!!

Posted by: MY THOUGHTS on Jul 30, 2008 at 05:19 AM
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITIZENS OF HEALDTON FOR VOTING TO KEEP THE 911 SYSTEM. I FEEL VERY SAFE KNOWING THAT IF I NEED A AMBULANCE THEY WONT KNOW WHERE TO FIND ME BECAUSE THE ADDRESSES EITHER DONT SHOW OR THEY ARE WRONG! LETS RAISE YOUR PHONE BILL TO PAY FOR THE UPGRADE SINCE YOU PEOPLE WANTED TO KEEP IT, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THE CITY CANT AFFORD IT. I HOPE IF YOU NEED SOAS, YOU ARE ABLE TO TELL DISPATCH WHERE YOU ARE, BECAUSE IF NOT, THEN YOU WONT GET A AMBULANCE! ONCE AGAIN, THANKS ALOT. I FEEL SAFE!

Posted by: my thoughts Location: healdton on Jul 29, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Well, looks like the E911 failed. That is great. We don't have dispatchers capable of giving intelligent information to the proper emergency departments, but, by god, we won't have to change a street name!!!!

Posted by: My thoughts on Jul 27, 2008 at 05:00 AM
I would have to agree with Amanda. I have also witnessed Joy do some crazy things at that PD. She is not one that I would want dispatching if I was in trouble and needing help. I also feel very sorry for the HFD and the HPD officers, because someone is GOING to get hurt if she is working. Its just a matter of time. I wish the HFD and the HPD officers would stand up for themselves and explain to the city manager how they REALLY feel about Joy. I have heard them gripe about her for a long time, and they know when they are out on a call, they can not depend on her. Maybe one of these days, the city will smarten up and realize she is only a thorn in their side.

Posted by: Amanda Location: ex healdton dispatcher on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Joy you crack me up. You dont answer the radio, Ive heard the 911 phone ring while you were on the other line talking to your sister about motorcycle license. I have also witnessed the 911 phone line ringing and you outside smoking, or inside smoking.. The logs are incomplete. phone calls never wrote down. I was never trained.. I know the Tina on this was not trained, because it was up to me and another dispatcher to train her...You need to get rid of Joy!! She puts your police department and fire department in danger everytime she is on duty. Healdton needs to get trained, able dispatchers in healdton. Being on the inside, It is a joke. I will never live in Healdton, or have to depend on the healdton police department again. As for Herb Collier, I have never heard him say anyhting incompetent and he seems to have the best intentions for Healdton. The problem is not Herb...Complain about your supervising dispatcher and your city manager.

Posted by: Does it Matter? on Jul 25, 2008 at 09:50 PM
Healdton is a good town to live in. Its kind of a retirement town. The people that run this town are the ones that have such a problem. As long as things are done the way they want it, there are no problems. If the citizens have a complaint, then that is is when the problem starts. Let the citizens have a say in what happens in this town. After all, we are the ones that live here and have to deal with the spineless people that are running the show.

Posted by: my thoughts on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:52 AM
I'm betting that rhonda is a kid and has NEVER been anywhere but Healdton, which is sad, and Lisa is just full of bull!!!

Posted by: Rhonda Location: Healdton on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:18 AM
Say what you want about Healdton, but it's still the best little town in the U.S. Full of caring people.For those of you who are reading these blogs, please don't judge our town till you have seen for yourself that it's a great place to live and raise a family. Healdton is awesome.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Healdton on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:38 PM
This whole town is ridiculous. From the police department to the hospital and on to the school systems. It is sad that people react like they do, but that is just Healdton for ya...pathetic!

Posted by: Moving out of Healdton Location: Dont know yet on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Does HIA stand for Herb Industrial Authority. Herb went from volunteer of the HIA to employee, then was appointed to city council, then after his brother was hired by HIA. Then Herb was promoted to supervisor of HIA, after this his sister was hired by HIA. I did not know if you were being paid by a city tax you could also be appointed to city council. I also have not seen a published balance sheet of the HIA you should not have to ask this is public knowledge print it. I will give Herb credit he was elected the last election to the coucil and when herb is recognize for something the HIA has done the other people that help do not even get credit just herb.

Posted by: Helpful voice Location: Down south on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:00 PM
I had to look on a map to see where Healdton was. For a small town looks like alot of problems. It seems the people should get out and vote when the next city election comes up and for the City I hope the people have a choice of at least 2 people in each ward. It also looks like most people that have sent in comments think the HIA runs the town not the city council. Please people of Healdton VOTE

Posted by: Lisa Location: Healdton on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:52 PM
This is supposed to be about the 911 issue, not every little detail that someone thinks is wrong with the community. If moaning & groaning solved problems, after reading everything here, we would have a perfect town. My opinion is get out there and volunteer or something to make a difference. Then you would have an investment in the town other than all this negativity. All the complainers need to spend a week in these peoples shoes to see what they go through. But it is far too easy to sit back and complain than to get out there and help to make a difference. The Man upstairs doesn't judge anyone until they are dead, so what gives everyone else the right to do it? To me, the ones complaining are more responsible for the down-fall than the ones trying to make a difference.

Posted by: Thankful Location: Healdton on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:38 PM
I grew up near Healdton and still live in the area. I agree that changes do need to be made, however, I believe that if you have time to "bash and slam" others on KXII.com, then you have time to make a difference. Get involved by volunteering at the pool, cleaning up the streets, picking up trash on the roadways or your street, promoting events, attending city council meetings, helping your neighbors, whatever is necessary to make your town a better place. Want better police protection? Sign up for the next reserve school in the area and volunteer your time to make a better dept! As far as Mr. Collier goes, I have never met any other individual who is involved in making Healdton a better place than he. He doesn't just "haul" inmates around, he works right along with them. I commend him on teaching his children how to volunteer at the pool and make a difference. If you have a problem with Herb, pray for him. More than likely the change will come about in your heart.

Posted by: Hurt in Healdton Location: Healdton on Jul 22, 2008 at 09:43 PM
I hope Healdton never host the National Snake Oil Salesman Convention. If they do The town will in worse shape because they are already broke and will have to get a loan because they will buy anything. Healdton needs the county 911 because the public would know how it is run and how the money is spent. The only problem is Mr. Herb would try to get on this council.

Posted by: What a deal Location: anywhere but Healdton on Jul 22, 2008 at 06:38 PM
I have attended the last few city meeting and let me tell you WHAT A JOKE. At one meeting the City Clerk was informing the city coucil about a ordinance that said if a councilman misses so many meetings in an amount of time the seat will be become open. She was not trying to get rid of the councilman only trying to inforce the ordinance. The council quickly made a motion to reappoint the current councilman. The only problem was they did not declare the seat vacant first but a motion was made and seconded to reappoint the coucilman. At one meeting bids were taken to replace a roof on a city building. The bids were open and the winning bid was for the most amount of money and the lease amount of work. The bid was approved and a motion was made the repairs would be done in so many days or a $100 per day would be charge to the builder. The project was finish In about 3 weeks and 10 days over the limit the council payed in full and It was not brought up about the $100 penilty.

Posted by: truthhurts Location: healdton on Jul 22, 2008 at 03:32 AM
So that ya know, the city of healdton did pay for an upgrade on the 911 system 2 years ago but was only for software purposes. There was no equipment upgrade. Granted, dispatch needs an overhaul but with this vote, Collier will get what he has always wanted. To do away with dispatch. You do away with the 911, the rest is sure to follow. Now, if the 911 line rings at 655am, a call comes in and an officer is needed, The chief lives 25 miles away in another town, driving a city police car at 4 bucks a gallon. Your response time is another 15 minutes. So your 911 is useless. The average person bleeds to death in 8 minutes. The Chiefs not gonna save you and neither is the 911 dispatcher. My point? Do away with 911 and dispatch. None of the dispatchers are qualified and definitley not trained correctly. Vote no and do away with 911.

Posted by: No More Taxes to HIA Location: Carter County on Jul 21, 2008 at 05:53 PM
The HIA has made comments about how things are so much better since they have taken over. The Healdton Pool has be run every summer by the City of Healdton until the last couple years. The city found money to open the pool and keep it running on very little funds. The HIA needs to thank the City Employee for Keeping the pool operational to the best of there ablity and not start bousting about it in the best shape ever. It's easy to make repairs with a endless amount of tax money. The Healdton Lake the HIA has taken it over and has spent $20,000 on a new sewer system. At $12 per night to camp this should be payed off in the next decade. Does the City still pay all utilies at he lake? Someone needs to check cause the HIA has a gravy train. I'm not spending any money in this town until things are better at city hall.

Posted by: I KNOW on Jul 20, 2008 at 05:55 PM
I think it would be better for Ardmore to take the 911 calls, especially the medical ones. Ardmore gets the information needed and can get the ambulance out quicker than Healdton can. Sometimes there is a 8-10 minute delay before Healdton ever calls for a ambulance. If you listen to the scanner often, then you are aware of this. I am a dispatcher and I know that every second counts. I know there is no reason for a medical call to be "unknown" regardless of who makes the call to 911, they can tell you if the person is breathing or not, bleeding, if they are hurting, where they are hurting. Its common sense questions, & that is something HPD dispatch does not have alot of. They have been taught by the supervisor there, and she doesnt ask these questions either! I have heard Joy say she does not know what is wrong, because the caller didnt tell her, WHY DONT YOU ASK! and, the house on top of the hill on the left side of 76 is NOT a good address. This is what info HPD gives other agencies!!

Posted by: SE Location: Bryan on Jul 20, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Wow, a lot of comments for a town I have never even heard of before now.

Posted by: Know The Facts on Jul 20, 2008 at 10:29 AM
If people knew how the E911 system worked then they would better understand the problem. The Ardmore center takes all 911 calls for the county except for Healdton. When the Ardmore Center gets a 911 call, the screen shows the phone number, address,and the area of where the caller is at. Ardmore does get some calls from the Healdton area. With the outdated system they have, it makes it harder for Ardmore to know exactly where the person is due to incorrect data shown. All they can provide HPD with is the phone # & the area of where the person may be.(not Ardmore's fault). If HPD could upgrade their system, it would show updated addresses,making response time quicker. How many times have you heard, the city does not have the funds? Do you think they can afford the upgrade? It would run smoother and more accurately with Ardmore because they have the upgraded system. The dispatchers get CORRECT information, get calls out quickly, and you would never hear them say "UNKNOWN MEDICAL"

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 20, 2008 at 08:55 AM
People might better understand what the problem is if they knew how the E-911 system worked. The Ardmore Center takes 911 calls for the entire county with the exception of Healdton. When a 911 call comes in to the Ardmore Center, it shows the phone #, mapping and the address of where the person is at. If Ardmore receives a 911 HANGUP CALL from the Healdton area, they can NOT give HPD an address, only a phone# and AREA of where the call come from. The equipment HPD has is outdated, so the addresses shown are incorrect. When someone CALLS the Ardmore Center from the Healdton area, Ardmore dispatch DOES get the info needed(phone#,location,nature of call,etc)for Healdton dispatch so that all they have to do is tone their FD with the information. If the city is in such a financial bind and cant afford to upgrade the equipment, then maybe Ardmore needs to take it, knowing they DO HAVE the proper equipment.

Posted by: Su Location: Denison on Jul 20, 2008 at 07:20 AM
I was wondering if you could get a good deal on an old (newer ) system that is being replaced from another city/ town/ I wondered where Healdton is ? So that I can go around it instead of through it. From the sounds of things ya'll are throwing tomatoes across the street and I wouldn't want to get hit if I drove by. Ya'll need to have a town meeting to get past these things. Forgive and forget and get back to The importance of 911 calls

Posted by: Bill Location: Southmayd on Jul 20, 2008 at 12:20 AM
I want to personally THANK kxii for this forum,I'm glad to see your awswer to "resident" in Healdton,if she wants to gossip,let her try writing a letter to the NEWSPAPER, and see if it ever gets printed.Most of us are grateful for a voice we never had, there is people on here that cant spell,make a sentence,and some that yell all the time,but their voice needs to be heard. if you read all the comments on a news item they tell a story themselves that you would never get elsewhere.Thanks KXII

Posted by: ex healdtonite Location: Healdton on Jul 19, 2008 at 10:38 PM
It seems to me like Herb has the best intentions, but is to non-oklahoman about how to go about his intentions, so he catches a lot of flak. I disagree with his family working for the city of Healdton, but if they benefit the city..unlike the police department and its un-trained and un-skilled officers and chief..then im all for him and his family.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 18, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Okay everyone this subject is about the 911 line and keeping it... I understand no one really likes herb as a person but yes he has done some good things to make himself look better than he is.. Now that we have givin him 10 more mins of fame that hes just been dieing for.. The real subject is this keep the 911 in healdton because if this goes to Co then thats time someone may need for a medical emergency! Ardmore would have to call the dispatch here in order to get first responders and thats just 5 more mins someone will be without help! Think how important your life or someone elses life is. Your going to be paying more for it to go to Co. Why would you want to risk your life and others because of personal issues you have for the people who work there. They care about each and every person that calls the police dept or other wise they would not be there...

Posted by: Shellybelle Location: Healdton Citizen on Jul 18, 2008 at 09:18 PM
PROUD VOTER: This is addressed to you. I don't like the way that you are shouting at me. I just made a comment, and if you are at the meetings, that's great. That was all that needed to be said. Don't bash me for stating the obvious. If you are in fact there, then you understand what I am trying to say. I didn't mean to step on your toes. Furthermore, I hate to be the one to state this, but if HIA weren't involved in the Healdton Swimming Pool, and the Healdton Lake. They wouldn't exist, because the City didn't have the revenue to keep both. Now, HIA is trying to help our community, by taking on more than they can chew. But, let's not forget, without HIA, the Healdton Pool would not be open, like some other local pools in the area. Without HIA taking over the Healdton Lake, we couldn't have enjoyed the Fourth of July Fireworks Display. What has the City of Healdton done for the community lately? So, please don't bash HIA because they are making every effort to improve the Healdton USA.

Posted by: me Location: healdton on Jul 18, 2008 at 07:03 PM
if the city is so broke and needing money why dont they shut down the HIA and spend it on more important things such as new streets but wait we cant have new paved streets because they would have to dig them back up to fix the rotted water and sewer lines. the HIA is funded through our tax dollers what all business have they brought in?

Posted by: resident Location: healdton on Jul 18, 2008 at 07:02 PM
Come on KXII you let people defend themselves and thats all fine and good...but you wont let anyone point out the faults. Like Joy, dont even get me started on the dispatch supervisor joy....All im saying is you (KXII) should post all but the most profane comments, in all fairness!!

Who are you again? Anonymous? If you're going to trash someone, why not use your real name? We might be more likely to post your comments if you did.-STAFF


Posted by: resident Location: ardmore on Jul 18, 2008 at 06:18 PM
JOY!! GIVE ME A BREAK!! Youre the worst one up there! I remember when a former officer arrested two sex offenders that lived together next door to me. I heard on the scanner as he yelled for 10 minutes to let someone know what was going on. He actually switched to county's frequency and got an answer right away. When you finally answered him he was in lone grove...THIS WAS ALL ON THE SCANNER!! So dont even act like you are perfect!!

Posted by: JIM Location: DENVER on Jul 18, 2008 at 06:12 PM
YOU ALL ,SHOULD GET OFF HERBS BACK SIDE HE DOSENT KNOW WHAT WAY IS UP!

Posted by: Cristine Location: healdton on Jul 18, 2008 at 04:41 PM
Im going to take a moment to address these rumors in reference to dispatch for as long as I have worked here I have NEVER not answered a call that includes the 911 Line. And I have also NEVER taken a complaint for anyone that works in dispatch. We have one of the best crews right now and have since I started working here. And Tina was right when I started here you learned that the phones are one of the most important things to take care of. I have never once neglected a call reguardless on what it is. I take EVERY call to be important and I get what you need to you that includes first responders and SOAS. And I have NEVER heard of ANYONE not telling first responders for an Unknown medical reason. They are told What the nature of the page out is followed by the address the age of the person needing help and then what the problem is. That way they know exactly what they will need on the call. I take my job very seriously everytime i walk through the back door and that will never change!

Posted by: Joy Location: Healdton on Jul 18, 2008 at 04:17 PM
I am not afraid to let you know who is posting this so here goes. First I thought the topic was 911 not Herb Collier, If it weren't for him the city would not have a working swimming pool this summer. Thanks Herb Second if you don"t like the things in this city why don't you VOTE! or run for office or Volunteer at the pool or go to the Council Meetings???? If the council doesn't do things your way at least you let them know what you want.

Posted by: Amy Location: Healdton on Jul 18, 2008 at 03:04 PM
In response to "Get a Clue", the HIA offered incentives to Bell Supply, Weatherford and Wells Vision & Laser Center to get them in town. The HIA is currently in negotiations with a oilfield company as well. These businesses do pay sales tax which boost the City's ability to offer services to its citizens. The reason the HIA is involved in the lake and pool is because the City lacked the funding in 2006/2007 to keep these facilities open. The HIA has then worked to raise money and apply for grants to keep these facilities open, maintained and improved for the citizens use. FYI - the HIA has a 5 year lease with the City. As far as the fire wood goes, the HIA cleans up property in the City which produced the fire wood as a bi-product. The sales from the fire wood are a supplement to the sales tax revenue that helps keep the pool and lake open for use by the citizens of Healdton. Yes, I am on the HIA board.

Posted by: my thoughts Location: healdton on Jul 18, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Man, are things screwed up!!! First of all, if E-911 gets voted in, when you dial 911, you will be connected to the emergency response people,(ambulance). they will take the information and I can tell you from past experience, someone needs to take it besides the "dispatchers" in healdton. They NEVER get what is needed. How many times have you heard "unknown medical" on the scanner,can't these people ask if the person is bleeding, been shot, can't breathe, has fallen, having a seizure, etc. but "Unknown Medical" is a ridiculous thing to say to first responders/EMS people. I think Herb and apparently his family members are doing a fine job, they are putting out the effort with little support behind them. I have heard him in meetings argue points and I think he tries to do the right thing, but you can't fight city hall...............

Posted by: whoever Location: used to be healdton on Jul 18, 2008 at 07:17 AM
wowwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!! this is really sad, the thing most of you people dont realize, is while you are sitting there griping about how bad the police dept is and how they never get to your calls fast enough!!!! wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! they go as fast as they can and next time you gripe about it you need to sit there and think about the fact that, all the bad stuff aside these guys are putting their lives in danger on a daily basis, and for what the city of healdton pays them, i wouldnt put my dogs life on the line. the fact is though they do everyday!!! have some respect!!!! ohhhhhh and another thing is, i worked there in dispatch and what people dont realize is yea, we might not be the first one to talk to you if 911 from a cell phone, but guess what ardmore calls us with their information on you and a call back # for you, so then before we can send help or anything, we have to call you back and get the rest of the info we need! think about it that adds atleast 5 min onto everycall

Posted by: no change on Jul 18, 2008 at 02:34 AM
The board is going to run things the way THEY want to..They are not going to take the citizens concerns or opinions into consideration. They never have. They will just hold out their hand for money when some stupid idea they had turns out to be a flop (like the cable)! The chief driving the car back and forth is a crock! We, the citizens pay for that! That should not be allowed. Herb may have good intentions, but he seems to take control over everything. I have heard him say one smart thing. And that was "How long was the city going to blame the old city manager for being indebt". He was right. Why cant they take blame for the actions they take at this point. I was tickled to think Sherrie Adams was coming in there. I knew she was a take charge type person. She has fallen into a "YES MAN" along with all the others. She just does whatever councel tells her to do. Get a back bone City Manager and stand up for your city. Just because they sit up there with you doesnt mean you have to agree

Posted by: MR HEALDTON Location: H TOWN on Jul 17, 2008 at 11:56 PM
I THOUGHT CONCIL MEETINGS WERE HELD AT ROBBIES BODY SHOP? THATS WHERE ALL CONCIL MEMBERS VEHICLES STAY! WHATS UP WITH THAT?

Posted by: GIT ER DONE Location: HEALDTON on Jul 17, 2008 at 11:53 PM
I THINK MARION WARD SHOULD BE MAYOR!

Posted by: ProudVoter Location: Healdton on Jul 17, 2008 at 10:53 PM
IM GONNA ADDRESS SHELLYBELLE, FIRST OF ALL I AND LIKE MANY OTHERS HAVE ATTENDED THE SO CALLED MEETINGS IN TOWN AND HAVE WITNESS FIRST HAND WHAT TAKES PLACE. I WAS THERE THE NIGHT THAT OUR OUTGOING MAYOR YELLED AT A PERSON CAUSE SHE MADE THE COMMENT THAT IF THE CITY WAS SO BROKE WHY ARE THEY ALLOWING THE CHIEF OF POLICE TO DRIVE THE CITY PATROL CAR TO HIS HOME IN LONE GROVE. SHE WAS ALSO TOLD THAT THE RESPONSE TIME FOR AND EMERGENCY PERSONAL WAS 30 MINS. WELL IM SORRY ALOT CAN HAPPEN IN 30 I KNOW I CAN SAY THIS IF THE SITUATION WERE ME OR MY FAMILY MEMBERS AND WE HAD TO WAIT FOR 30 MINS THERE WOULD BE A SERIOUS LAWSUIT AGAINST HEALDTON AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT... SO PLEASE DONT SAY FOLKS DO NOT GO TO THE MEETINGS.. CAUSE WE DO.. BUT WHY THEY NEVER LISTEN TO THE TOWN FOLKS ANYWAY THEY HAVE THEIR MINDS MADE UP. AND AS FOR HERB. HIM AND HIS WIFE TOOK REDCROSS LESSONS WITH THIS SAME PERSONS FAMILY MEMBER AND HERB WAS VERY RUDE TO HIM. SO THERE YOU HAVE IT.. IN A NUTSHELL

Posted by: THINK ABOUT IT Location: carter county on Jul 17, 2008 at 10:22 PM
From what I have heard,and read about this,Carter county is not taking over dispatch, but only the 911 calls. This will be another fee on Healdtons phone bill, Then the calls are reported to the same dispatchers every one is complaining about. All you have done is increased your phone bill and added another step in an emergency call, that takes longer. Someone please correct me if I am wrong!

Posted by: get a clue Location: Healdton on Jul 17, 2008 at 10:09 PM
I thought the only job of the HIA was to bring industy into Healdton? Why are they even messing with the pool,the lake,buying trailer houses,cutting fire wood? Get bussiness in here and create jobs for many people and revenue for the city, rather then just the Colliers.I have nothing against Herb other then he is spending my money on the wrong things. Also your city charter says we have to have a police dept.Concil cant shut it down,or we dont qualify as a city. If that happens I dont believe we will be able to get grants and government help that we depend on. I have been to concil meetings,and watched them on our cable channel. When a person shows up to express concerns on an issue,it gets tabled,until that person isnt there, then voted on by the concil. Half of the actions taken by the concil are not legal,but who is to stop them? Healdton city concil needs to be replaced by people who care about Healdton.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 17, 2008 at 09:52 PM
IM A LITTLE COMFUSED HERE EITHER WE ARE NEVER IN DISPATCH AND OUT BACK SMOKING OR WE ARE IN DISPATCH SMOKING MAKE UP YOUR MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: CONCERNED on Jul 17, 2008 at 07:26 PM
WHY DOUG???? BECAUSE HE IS ON THE BOARD, THATS WHY AND I HAVE SEEN HIM ARGUE WITH THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS OVER THINGS THEY KNEW WAS WRONG.

Posted by: whatever jerry Location: healdton on Jul 17, 2008 at 06:38 PM
Come on Jerry...calm down a little and dont take comments so personally. No one attacked you or your mighty HIA so take it down a notch. If your so worried about what someones name is, maybe you can get the police department to investigate. Oh wait...none of them know what to do besides sit in dispatch and smoke. lol.........just calm down and take a deep breath Jerry

Posted by: tired of kxii Location: healdton on Jul 17, 2008 at 06:33 PM
COME ON KXII STOP BLOCKING MY COMMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jerry on Jul 17, 2008 at 04:09 PM
I'm the president of HIA in Healdton, I felt the same way as a lot of you people. About two years ago, I decided I would get involved, and find out what was going on and see if I could change anything. What I found out, was much different than what I seen from the side lines. Everybody is doing the best they can, but we need more help. Herb does not run HIA, He has 7 people, that he has to answer to. He has to explain every thing he does or spends. We have a seat open on the HIA board, if you think you can do IT better then us, call 229-0900, and tell our secretary, you want to be considered for that seat, and we will be glad to talk to you. (You will have to tell us your name then,) As far as what we do and what we spend, call the same number, and you can set up an appointment to see any records that we have, on the day to day things that we do for YOUR CITY.

Posted by: MR. HEALDTON Location: HEALDTON on Jul 17, 2008 at 02:45 PM
I spoke to a female emplyee at the Family Dollar this afternoon. She told that the family dollar was broken into. And when they called the police dept no officer had arrived. after a hour of waiting they went and got a deputy who lives in Healdton. So my question is this. where is are tax dollars going? We need to disband the whole police dept along with the dispatchers.

Posted by: Why Doug? on Jul 17, 2008 at 02:32 PM
What does Doug McCalister have to do with any of this? Get Real!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Posted by: Shellybelle Healdton Citizen Location: Healdton USA on Jul 17, 2008 at 11:51 AM
I think there are a lot of people on this forum that are just plain and simple-chickens. If you don't like the way things are in Healdton, then become an active part of your community. Come on out and meet with our City Councilmen, and get to know them. So many people will get on here and bash people and their families, but sit in their own little world and gripe and complain, but will not do anything to even try and help change the community. For all that have been on here posting such negativities about the Colliers, be people of integrity and show up at the Town Hall Meetings, and City Council meetings to voice your concerns. You are making yourself look so small by hiding behind your posts on this website. The problem is the ones that really have issues are chicken and will not show up at any of the town meetings or city council meetings. I mean, sure, you can voice your opinion here, but the only ways that things can change are to be addressed publicly within our community.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 17, 2008 at 06:58 AM
Herb's Wife,and Daughters have nothing to do with council or desions made for the city. Please leave them alone they are good people

Posted by: Mork Location: Ork on Jul 17, 2008 at 06:37 AM
When did they get phones in Healdton? Wow - progress.

Posted by: concerned on Jul 17, 2008 at 03:52 AM
I do know that the ex mayor of the town told the officers that Healdton was a mayberry town and the officers were not to patrol, give tickets, or even go out on a call unless it was a major emergency. They were to do their shift at home and not be wasting gas! He said that was OHP and County's job, not ours. I guess the new mayor has decided to go along with that policy. Herb, you can make excuses all day, but the truth of it is, you will do just what the mayor and city manager tell you to. and that is the big problem. No one up there will stand up for what is right, they are just "YES" men. I say clear the whole city hall and pd out and start anew with someone that is not going to lie,cheat and steal from the citizens of our town. I was so excited about Adams becoming the city manager, only to see she let me down. I am so ashamed that she has become one of them! I told everyone she would make it right and not be a "YES" man, and would stand up to the mayor. Boy, was I ever wrong.

Posted by: local voice Location: Healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Maybe if more people in Healdton would help out in the town then Herb and his family wouldn't have to do so much. His girls are children come on remimber we are adults if you have a problem run for a seat on city council or shut up

Posted by: local voice Location: healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Why are we all jumping on Herb, when you go to the police dept. and you can't even breath because it's so smoky like a bar, and if you need a officer they are either cheating on their spouse with little girls or having parties with miners buying alcohol. So I think the town has more problems then Herb, maybe we should not throw rocks because we all live in glass houses!!!!!

Posted by: concerned on Jul 16, 2008 at 09:37 PM
What they need up there is a lot more Doug McCalister's!!!! I respect that man to the fullest. He dont take no crap! Get Pender,Sanders,Herb,Adams,and the rest of the no good suckers out of there. You know something HAS TO BE WRONG, just look at the lawsuit history and look at the several NEW lawsuits coming at them. We need someone that can run a town, and it sure isnt any of these subjects listed above!! Doug, STAND UP AND TAKE CHARGE before their snake in the grass ways rub off on you, Close the pd and let county have it.

Posted by: MY OPINION Location: HEALDTON on Jul 16, 2008 at 09:22 PM
I have lived in Healdton for many years. The pd phone lines will not be answered during the day time hours if you call, due to dispatch smoking. I have heard the fire department hollar numerous times on the scanner for the daytime dispatcher and they would never get answered, due to she was outside smoking. I have gone in to make a report and stood there for 30 min. waiting, then finally going around to the smoke break table where I would find the dispatcher. I have heard first responders go enroute to a call and it be 8-10 minutes before the dispatchers ever call the ambulance service. Herbie is not liked and neither is his family that is employeed there. I say do away with 911 & let county have it. The city has to many lawsuits to deal with and will be running out of money soon!!!!

Posted by: Shellybelle Location: Healdton Citizen on Jul 16, 2008 at 09:18 PM
Let me just say this. I am a citizen of Healdton, and I have had my own share of problems with HPD. They never seem to be around when you need them. But, when you're trying to enjoy yourself, they just have to stop and check on things. As far as Herb Collier. They are very dear friends of mine, and they all help our community so much. I feel that if they were not here, then Healdton would have already disappeared. I really do not appreciate all the people that have commented negatively on this forum, and they claim to be Healdtonites. Shame on all of y'all. Daniel Street Residents, I love y'all!!!! Colliers, give em' Hell!!!!Come on people, we must change with the times. Old money still operates in the community of Healdton, but they will all be gone one day, and if we don't stand for something, we'll fall for anything. What makes Herb so important, he not only sees the issues, but he works to eliminate the issues.

Posted by: Herb, Part 2 Location: Healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 07:37 PM
My bother does work for HIA, no secret and works hard at what he does. My sister works part time as a secretary, lake host and is a certified lifeguard and swimming instructor while at the pool. The board hired them it would be a conflict for me to hire them. As far as my “step-mother”, my mother passed away in 2001 she was a wonderful person, that topic is best left alone. In regards to the releasing information there has been no request made to the board or an appoint to view them, there was a phone call by a city employee and she was instructed how to get them and did not follow through. All records are open and I will be happy to meet with whoever would like to review them or the board meetings are the 1st and 3rd Thursday of each month you are more then welcome to show up and ask questions and see what our taxpayer money is being spent on. If anyone has a question about anything with HIA you can call the chamber or pool and leave a message and I will call you back.

Posted by: Herb Collier, Part 1 Location: Healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 07:34 PM
Please allow me to set some things straight. First the question on the ballet is NOT to do away with dispatch and/or police officers. It is ONLY to have the county answer the landline 9-1-1 calls. Police and Fire would still be dispatch here in Healdton. The county is already receiving the E-9-1-1 calls from cell phones. Fact, they have the equipment and the technology that Healdton does not. As far as the personal attacks on me I have no problem with. I have been in the “public eye” before and am used to people getting half information and calling it fact. I would ask and hope that you leave my family out of it. My daughters and wife all work at the pool and just for the record they are 12 and 14. The HIA board has set a dollar amount for the pool to loose and if it hits that amount the pool closes immediately. Now what you may not know or be as juicy is NONE of them are paid, they VOLUNTEER their time. They do not ask or receive a red cent from the pool, HIA or the city.

Posted by: are you people for real? Location: Healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 07:10 PM
OMG come on now! why cant you people wake up and realize the police department in full is a joke. the council members dont control the police department The City Manager does. but since she barely knows what to do to get the town out of the red. how do you think she is gonna get the police department under control... YOUR Police and Dispatchers are all worthless. this whole town needs a make over. you have family working around family maybe the city council should look at the city charter it states in there NO family can work for the same department.. and for the record, all dispatchers in Healdton are jailers and that is why they have a camera in the jail cells and a screen to watch the inmates on. This was put in place years ago so the dispatch did not have to leave her area to go check on the inmate. Yes you are suppose to do a visual but as much as the Officer is at the station the dispatcher has no reaso to leave her POST... clean house down there and get some real folks

Posted by: Daniel St. Residents Location: healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 05:11 PM
herb and his family have been a great asset to our community. More people should care as much and be as involved in our town as they are. There have been great changes in alot of areas, people just LOOK around! oh, you can look around and see from place to place because someone cares enough to cut the grass and clean up this town! Thanks Herb!!!!!!

Posted by: MR. HEALDTON Location: HEALDTON on Jul 16, 2008 at 04:59 PM
My question is this we all know that the police and dispatching is not working in Healdton. I spoke to Greg Grant the guy thats running for Sheriff. He said that he would work with the city fathers to help control our problem. As for the Sheriff Ken Grace what has he done in the west part of this county.. VoTE for Greg Grant. True leadership, and he wants to help.. not so with grace.

Posted by: concerned Location: Healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 04:59 PM
Ok, now that we know that Herb, his brother, sister, step-mother all work for the city what about his wife and 15 year old daughter also work at the city pool. Now that's 6 out of the 7 family members employed by the city. Wow, isn't there something a 13 year old could do.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 04:55 PM
I personally think we need to do away of a few of our council members and get new ones that will work for or town not against it . We need our Police Dept. and our Dispatchers.As for the 911 system I think it needs updated for our dispatchers to handle not County.But then when you have people like Herb Collier on council and HIA what do you expect.He has tried every way to shut the doors at the Police Dept for some time now ,It is time to get him out of there completely.By that I mean out of City Council and HIA.Tomuch funny business going on there.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 16, 2008 at 03:23 PM
Now I have seen in here that the sheriffs dept has been running traffic what mr healdton failed to mention was the Healdton PD was informed they were not allowed to patrol there for quite sometime or they would be fired AGAIN! So HMMM does mr collier want to answer to that? Any other takers on that one?

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 16, 2008 at 03:13 PM
From what ive seen when I went and applied they are extremly under paid and it seems to me they have to LOVE their job in order for them to be getting paid 5.85!!! But everyone is right it isnt about the dispatch it seems to be more about the officers. And also how many times have you called healdton dispatch today?

Posted by: Hmm on Jul 16, 2008 at 02:44 PM
Things that make ya go hmm. Why was the fact that MR Collier left out the fact that he is a Council Member. I know that not only does he run the industrial authority but also is very controlling on the council. He does have a Brother and a Sister that works for the HIA. The one that was his "step mother" any connection there was lost when her husband died. They do not acknowlege her at all. She gave her notice at the city because none of the city employees can live on what the city pays. I understand that the HIA is Paid by our taxes as well, but they will not release any of their information like the city has too. So now he want PD and Dispatch gone so that County will be forced to patrol. Things that make ya go hmmm

Posted by: Dispatcher Location: Fannin Co, TX on Jul 16, 2008 at 01:42 PM
These people are paid to save your life. Why would you complain and pinch pennies rather than provide them with the tools necessary to provide a more efficient service to you and your family?

Posted by: healdton home 57 Location: healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 01:18 PM
I think we should get rid of every person that is involved with THE CITY OF HEALDTON, Pay whats left of Herbs Family to run this town and change the name to Herbton Oklahoma! Give me a break. Thank you Officers,Dispatch,and all other City workers. You people are way under appriecieted. God bless you all!

Posted by: Mr. Healdton Location: Healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 01:11 PM
Its time we take a look at the system. its out dated may or may not work. That why I think the city should turn over the 911 system to E911. its not about losing our dispaters people. its about getting the phone answered the first time... wake up!! its not hard people can the city afford a new system? maybe not because of the law suits the police dept has going on..

Posted by: healdton man Location: healdton usa on Jul 16, 2008 at 01:10 PM
I watched a concil meeting of healdtons a few weeks back and the gripe was over funding the police depatment. Its funny that this issue should arrive now.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 01:03 PM
Is this another attempt to get rid of City work force as Herb Collier has done in the past? He has already made jobs for his brother,sister,step mother,and himself. How long will citezens allow the man to drain our poor little town? How do you get funded with tax dollars,and sit on the concil that regulates those very same tax dollars? Is this a joke? The real problem here is not even about 911 is it? Maybe he should stick to taking inmates on private property and cutting down trees that are not his to be cutting down and selling it for fire wood. This guy has seen more air time on the news patting himself on the back then Barbra Walters. Please pray for Healdton!

Posted by: steveO Location: Ardmore on Jul 16, 2008 at 12:49 PM
TRUTH, THATS BECAUSE YOU WHERE CALLING IN HEALDTON...AN IM SURE YOU DID NOT CALL THE COUNTY TODAY AT ALL. SO GIVE IT UP YOUR GAME IS NOT WORKING ON US.. YA SHE FROM HEALDTON!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 16, 2008 at 12:18 PM
You know its starting to sound like this is all about a personal thing over the officers not dispatch?? A little confused here!!!

Posted by: tina Location: ardmore on Jul 16, 2008 at 12:12 PM
i worked for the police department in healdton for almost a year, and the entire time i worked there i nor any of the other dispatchers had any kind of problems answering the 911 phone, even when we were booking a person into jail. The day you start working as a dispatcher you are taught to prioritize, the 911 line is the first and foremost priority, and the entire time i worked there i never once heard of a dispatcher not answering that phone. I believe that this whole thing has nothing to do with how well the dispatchers can handle their job. Just remember healdton residents, would you rather have a dispatcher that knows without looking at a map how to give directions to find your address, or wait on county to try and figure out were you're calling from and how to get there!!! just remember that everyone up there works over and above what they should to try and make you safe and your town safe. So give them a break when you vote.

Posted by: TRUTH Location: healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Yes carter co pulls traffic stops not only here but in other citys also So should we just hand all the other citys to them to.. I just called Carter Co this morning and the first time I got NO ANSWER and the second I was placed on hold for 5 mins YEA GREAT THING YOU GOT GOING THERE

Posted by: MR. HEALDTON Location: Healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 11:32 AM
As I drove home from work yesterday morning. I saw a carter co Sheriff's Deputy on a traffic stop, in the great city of Healdton. A few moments later I saw a HPD police car go by. Then I saw a speeding car going towards the HPD police car and you who stopped him.. THE CARTER COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPUTY.. Im getting tired of paying taxes for the city PD to have the Sheriff office make r stops. Oh yes the Healdton police office did turn around and go by the deputies car and the nice deputy did wave.. PUT it to a vote dispband the Healdton Police dept..

Posted by: Anonymous Location: healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 05:55 AM
Funny thing about the cell phones going through ardmore... Who do you think Ardmore calls with NO LOCATION HEALDTON and the officers have to go searching around a location ardmore THINKS your at so what does that mean???????? Yea once more Healdton dispatch and officers are there NOT CO!!! The only reason they dont have better equipment Well I think you should ask the city counsil NO NO NO better yet ask HERB COLLIER!!!!! Since he just knows it all! That man just needs to stick to halling around inmates and cleaning up the lake and pool!

Posted by: HOW FUNNY Location: healdton on Jul 16, 2008 at 05:48 AM
The funny thing about the below comments is this when you need the police in healdton you are all about them showing up at your door the only problem the below are having is they have 9 times out of 10 been the ones in trouble. There has NEVER been a moment where the phones were not being answered and for another thing ANYTIME ANYONE has called that 911 line they never got left out to dry not ONE PERSON has died on ANY dispatchers shift!!! But there has been times where other Stations has taken the 911 calls for healdton due to power outages and nothing was EVER done.. If carter co was to take over do you think for one minute they will be able to respond to a domestic? NO!!!!! They have to many other places to take care of!!! And their dispatch may not get to dispatching them out as soon as the calls come in just think about how fast you want an officer there when someone is breaking into your home do you want it in 30 mins to an hour or within mins? Its your life you decide!!!!

Posted by: healdtonite Location: in-town on Jul 15, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Herbie Collier?! LOL give me a break! He wouldnt know 911 from 411!!

Posted by: Mr. Healdton Location: Healdton on Jul 15, 2008 at 09:51 PM
Healdton dispatch? I have call the Healdton Police Dept and the dispatcher does not pick up the phone. I have gone up to the healdton Police Dept and found the dispatcher a sleep on duty.. Its time for a change and a big change. I feel that the City of Healdton should also disband the police dept. It appear more and more i see deputies doing Healdton Police Dept. work.

Posted by: MY OPINION on Jul 15, 2008 at 07:40 PM
I SAY DO AWAY WITH IT AND GIVE IT TO THE COUNTY. MOST CELL PHONES RING TO THE COUNTY ANYWAY, NOT HEALDTON.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 15, 2008 at 07:04 PM
I SAY DO AWAY WITH IT AND LET THE COUNTY DO IT. THEY HAVE MORE UPDTAED EQUIPMENT AND CAN GET HELP THERE QUICKER ANYWAY!!

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