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Possibility of Ardmore branch campus debated at final Legislative Luncheon Save Email Print
Posted: 5:26 PM May 9, 2008
Last Updated: 5:26 PM May 9, 2008
Reporter: Robin Beal
Email Address: robin.beal@kxii.com

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ARDMORE, Okla. -- It is not quite dead in the water, but it would appear that Ardmore’s hopes for a branch university campus are far from materializing. State lawmakers were present at the final Legislative Luncheon of the session Friday at the Ardmore Convention Center. Robin Beal reports.

Ardmore's hopes for a branch campus have dwindled in recent weeks as news of opposition in the State Senate surfaced which would lay the financial groundwork for transitioning the Ardmore Higher Education Center into a full-fledged university.

At Friday’s final Legislative Luncheon of the year, the major discussion was that legislation. It has been tied up in the state senate for weeks. Senator Johnnie Crutchfield told the crowd that for his colleagues who represent other districts -- in particular districts who already have a university presence in place -- the Ardmore proposal is a hard sell, partly because existing universities say they are financially squeezed as it is.

Crutchfield says cutting another wedge out of the already small pie of state funds is an option that makes a lot of university presidents uncomfortable, and that ultimately has led to a stall-out this session.

"The possibilities of transitioning this year are basically not very real at this point," Sen. Crutchfield says.

If the bill remains on the back burner until the end of session, Crutchfield says he and Representative Greg Piatt will go back to the drawing board and begin the process of drafting something for next year.

Unless something extraordinary happens in Oklahoma City in the next two weeks, there will be no Ardmore branch campus in 2008.

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Posted by: Reality Location: OK on May 12, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Higher education institutions are underfunded for this current year. Adding a new college needing additional funding is not feasible with the state money now allocated.

Posted by: Republican in Ardmore Location: Ardmore on May 11, 2008 at 09:07 PM
For Okie: there is no Republican agenda. The only thing keeping this from happening is money being lost from the other universities by local people not going off to college and paying for a dorm room, meals, and tuition. If Ardmore had a branch university, why go off to college when you can stay here and go to college. Ardmore should proceed with building a bigger campus with the colleges it has now. They don't need to change to a branch university at this time.

Posted by: P Location: Ardmore on May 11, 2008 at 08:02 PM
Ardmore already has an instution for it's citizens to attend in furtherance of their college educations, without unduly burdening them with time/travel constraints added to holding jobs. It currently requires money to sustain this institution. What the legislature has failed to figure out is whether the "new" facility costs the state and institutions more or costs them less than what they currently pay. Other institutions' fears that their share of the pie will be lessened is based, so far, on hysteria and panic in a year of limited funds, there having been no facts or figures or studies produced on which to make a reasonable decision. Perhaps a year's delay to provide those numbers will help the cause in the long run. In the meantime, Ardmore will do just fine, thank you. We are still in business, and so is our higher education institution.

Posted by: Reva Location: Ardmore on May 11, 2008 at 02:31 PM
I would hate to go to the hospital with an emergency and be told, "Hello, I am Dr. So and So. I got my degree off the internet." Or drive on a bridge over a river and be greeted by the sign, "Engineered by graduates from the internet." Or how about this sign, "Send your children to such and such public school - all our teachers were educated on the internet." LOL I could go on and on. There is a reason the public funds education - because it is in the best interest of all.

Posted by: D Location: Ardmore on May 11, 2008 at 01:23 PM
I've had the opportunity to live many different places, but I've spent the last 13 years here in Ardmore... To me this feels like dealing with someone thats an addict. If there not willing to help themselves than there's not much you can do for them(Ardmore). If this community can argue and win such a large portion of federal funds based on the future of commerce, i.e. MG plant??? I don't understand the lack of vision/potential commerce based on an actual campus. I have a hard time being moved by a concern from "other" college communities that our future might hurt their's. My experience here in Ardmore practically demands a University Campus...this article is horrible disheartening.

Posted by: Jim Location: Tishomingo on May 11, 2008 at 09:58 AM
Why should taxpayers fund higher education? The internet has provided an easier way to access University level education and defray fuel and travel expenses. The Dem's want more Union jobs that Taxpayers have to pay for ie. air traffic controllers.

Posted by: Okie on May 10, 2008 at 09:59 AM
Finally Ardmore comes to the reality of the Republican Agenda. Most of you voted for them, now you get to live with them.

Posted by: Reva Location: Ardmore on May 10, 2008 at 09:11 AM
This really is a shame. With Ardmore's population and location, there should have been a regular college or university here decades ago. Citing my personal experience and that of acquaintances, I can tell you that the Higher Ed. Center can only take you so far. You cannot believe the numbers of people who are driving to Norman, Durant, and Ada after a long day of work in order to further their education. I have seen this situation before in Missouri where I grew up. Eventually what happened there was a private four year university came in outside the city limits. Now a huge population in that area are stuck with very high tuition and fees, or they continue to drive a long way for higher education. A university student population would also help fill local business positions that are currently going unfilled (i.e. restaurants). This really is a travesty. And, in my opinion, it already has and will continue to keep Ardmore from ever living up to its full potential.

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