Ardmore daycare worker cleared in child abuse case

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Posted: 6:43 PM Jul 18, 2008
Last Updated: 11:08 PM Jul 18, 2008
Reporter: Robin Beal
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ARDMORE, OK -- After allegations of abuse at a prominent local daycare operated by a church, the former employee accused in that case will not be facing charges. Robin Beal reports.

A community was shocked when the allegations began to circulate on the Internet back in April through MySpace bulletins and emails. A parent's cries for help, after she was allegedly shown a cell phone video depicting her young daughter being mistreated by an employee of the Kiddie Kollege on 12th Avenue in Ardmore. Now after months of investigation, the district attorney Emily Redmond says no charges will be filed.

Ardmore police detectives conducted multiple interviews of employees of the Kiddie Kollege, and the employee who was accused of mistreating the child resigned after the facility came under scrutiny the case was eventually turned over to Bryan County District Attorney Emily Redman after the Carter County District Attorney asked to be removed from the case.

In a statement provided to First News, District Attorney Redman says:

"The police investigation revealed what I believe is inappropriate behavior of the daycare worker -- especially in relation to the discipline of a two-year-old child. Grabbing a two-year old by the face and yelling at her is simply not appropriate, especially in a daycare setting…”

"However, inappropriate or bad behavior does not always equal criminal behavior. In this case, the child was not injured in any way. While I would not choose to discipline a child in this manner, I cannot find any criminal intent..."

-Emily Redman, District Attorney

Church Spokesman, Dustin Rowe says, "One should commend Ms. Redman, who is an outstanding district attorney. She was very thourough in her investigation, she sent off for more information in fact from that which was originally sent to her, I don't believe she's left any stone uncovered."

We are not privy to any of the evidence in the case, and we have not seen a copy of the videotape at the center of the controversy. So far that tape has not been released to the public, despite our repeated requests. Whether or not the recording will now be made available is not yet clear.

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Posted by: Dana Location: SC on Jul 27, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Ya know what REALLY gets me? Sooo many parents jumping up and saying "If it were my child I'd do this that or another"! Oh yeah? Are you willing to PAY for adequate childcare for YOUR child? You want premium childcare at a low rate cost. Well guess what? It ain't gonna happen! The old adage, "you get what you pay for" surely fits in this situation. Wake up America, you can't have your cake and eat it to. Childcare workers are among the lowest pay scale in our country. A person who flips burgers for a living deals with far less stress, yet gets paid on the same level as a childcare worker. Yet, you wonder WHY your children aren't treated properly?

Posted by: I need proof Location: Oklahoma on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Where can I watch this video? I would like to judge for myself. At this time (not seeing the video) I would just have to think that the DA is correct in her ruling. So - where is this video? Let us all watch and decide for ourselves. I have been accused of things I have not done - so I won't be taking anyone's word for anything.

Posted by: Reva50 Location: Ardmore on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:41 AM
You people are ludicrous! Apology, my foot! Are you all so totally blind that you don't realize that the law does sometimes make wrong decisions? I, personally, use my own mind and don't blindly follow the lead of every authority figure I see. Yes, I am a law abiding citizen who respects the law and our justice system and have never been convicted of anything but a traffic ticket. But authority figures are not gods on high - they are not infallible. They are human beings just like you and me. A 2 year old child was grabbed by the face and then ended up on the floor. She could've ended up with a broken neck! As I said previously, Ardmore is not a good town for children. And judging by what I have seen on this board, I stand by that statement.

Posted by: Angela Location: Madill on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:40 AM
Shonda does not need money from Brigett or the church. Something did happen to her daughter and she wouldn't have been crying had nothing happened! This little girl is a very good girl and I have been around her a lot. She does not have a behavior problem! This home is very stable and the parents make sure the kids are well behaved. Shonda and her child would not need counseling had Brigett not have been stupid and "inappropriately" corrected the child! If i'm not mistaken the child may have been provoked which kicked off her crying. Brigett does not deserve an apology. Brigett is the one who needs to apologize.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 23, 2008 at 11:37 PM
I feel the mother owes her nothing, let alone an apology! If I had found out a child care worker had grabbed my child or grandchild that way I would have probably done more than just filed a report, and I am sure any CARING parent would have felt the same way. Why is it one parent can be arrested for grabbing her teenage child by the face for calling her a dirty word in a grocery store and someone reporting it, but a paid child care worker can grab a 2 year old and you people think she deserves an apology?? I agree that our system doesn't always protect the children. when you state that the law did not see anything criminal, sometimes the law only sees what it wants, and this was in her (Emily Redmans) opinion. That doesn't make it right! I think our "law" has proved that time and time again. I'm sure that parents of children that have been killed by abuse, that had been reported and the caseworkers didn't see enough evidence, would agree.

Posted by: annoyed Location: ardmore on Jul 23, 2008 at 08:49 PM
So because a child is crying, because the teacher purposely took something away from the child, which was her security blanket its OK to squeez her cheeks, point your finger in her face and yell at her and plus do more and then to say that she had bad behavior! Whatever! Bridgett did all that to her self, just give the one thing that she wanted which was her security blanket, my God she's only 2yrs. That is just so stupid to do that to a child like she did. Yes, I've seen the video it makes me crazy sad and puts tears to my eyes when you hear that poor innocent child crying. I love this child and her family like my own. I heard Shonda call the day care on several different occasions and ask if she was doing ok, because she was getting mixed feelings. Their response back was she is doing good and everything is ok. So if they didn't like the way she was acting and if she was such a problem child, then why didn't they tell Shonda to come get her and take her somewhere eles?

Posted by: Ardmoreite Location: Ardmore on Jul 23, 2008 at 07:30 PM
I agree with Mr Tipps when he said that Ms Anthony deserves an apology. And it should come from Ms Ingle and her family because the law did not see anything criminal about the case. What they saw was the child being disciplined for bad behavior. The method of discipline may have been questionable, it was not criminal. I think Ms Ingle should make a public apology here on this blog or in the Daily Ardmoreite and everthing will be over.

Posted by: ardmoregirl Location: ardmore on Jul 23, 2008 at 07:09 PM
"Thank You" ardmore Location: ardmore on Jul 23, 2008 at 02:30 PM. Shonda and her family needs to move on from this because nothing happened to her daughter. Emily Redman did her job right. Shonda is looking to make money from this that's why she is making the threats about filing a law suite against the church and Bridgett. Shonda and her daughter need to go to counseling or something. None of this would have happened if parents in Ardmore would correct their kids at home!

Posted by: christi Location: ardmore on Jul 23, 2008 at 03:55 PM
I have seen the Video and im best friends with the family that this has happened too! I have the facts!

Posted by: Shonda Location: Ardmore on Jul 23, 2008 at 03:43 PM
Dear Ardmore, For the most part, when I am commenting on here I am either,answering questions or rebutling things that were said.Kinda like I am to YOU.Yes,we have moved on "THANK YOU", As far as the myspace.honestly that took off faster than I ever expected, but hind sight is 20/20 & I should have left our names out-I will give you that. However,there was NO slander.I retold the FACTS that were given to me.Even the officer that took my report told me it wasn't slander cause I had the video proof to back what I was saying. Matter of fact, he encouraged me to post it.I never posted the teachers name until Emily Redman made her decision.Yes it got out,but it wasn't by me.Would you not do the same things for your child? Put yourself in my shoes for a moment. Imagine someone walking into your place of employment & showing you & telling you all sorts of things.I believe most mothers out there would do exactly as I did-maybe,even taken things into their own hands. Which I did not do.

Posted by: ardmore Location: ardmore on Jul 23, 2008 at 02:43 PM
Oh and I forget, it is a former employee, she resigned when confronted on the allegations.

Posted by: ardmore Location: ardmore on Jul 23, 2008 at 02:30 PM
can we just move on from this? If this daycare was such an awful place then it would be closed. They interviewed all the employees there and thigns are fine. I'm sure that if the employee could take it back then she would. Let's be glad the girl was two and will have virtually no chance of remembering this. And Shonda, I would definately check your facts before filing a civil suit because you slandered the persona nd the church all over the internet before the investigation was complete. Had it been me in your shoes, I wouldn't have posted it on my myspace page with my daughter's name for the world to see. But I agree in that I wouldn't apologize to the employee either, but to continue to assert that there are bad things going on there, when nothing has been proven or has come out of the investigation shows to me that I'm not sure you really have moved on. I'm srue you feel slighted but if you really have moved on would you be commenting on this website?

Posted by: Dana Location: SC on Jul 23, 2008 at 10:49 AM
You couldn't pay me enough to work in a daycare again! Of course what this woman did was wrong, that's a given. But the lynch mob mentality exhibited here is startling! Come on people, you don't have all the facts; you haven't seen the video. If she did indeed grab the child's face and yell at her, she needs to be fired and never allowed to work in a childcare setting again. I've worked in childcare and have seen far worse done. By workers and parents. It's a situation of "picking your battles" as there are so many. My heart goes out to this child and her family. My own daughter was 4 mo. old and received a blackeye while at daycare! (yes, I reported it) I've seen both sides of this, and neither one is pretty. I just wish people would get the facts before throwing someone under the bus. She has children, right? Don't you think smearing her name affects them as well? If you KNOW of abuse, report it, and keep it off of the internet. There was after all a child in the video.

Posted by: Angela Location: Madill on Jul 23, 2008 at 10:08 AM
I can't believe it was actually said that this child was not injured. Please!!! There may not have been visible marks but that doesn't mean she wasn't injured. I know this little girl and her family and it is a shame that nothing was done to Brigett. What a joke! It is pretty bad when a child has to be killed for anything to be done. A two year old can not defend themselves and it is a parents job to keep their kids safe which is exactly what this parent has done. I bet if Brigett had an adult take hold of her face and yell at her and grab her by the shoulders and give her a good shake and hold her down on the floor by force she would have probably filed assault charges. HMMMMM.....sounds like the law doesn't seem to care about the children.

Posted by: Shonda Ingle Location: Ardmore on Jul 23, 2008 at 07:19 AM
Dear Ardmoregirl, your friend BRIGETT, will never, do. you. get. it.? NEVER get an apology from me, my family or my child! Your right, when you say that there are other things going on @ that daycare that need to come out. I have said that all along. Parents need to take off their blinders. I can honestly say I did ALL that I could do for my child. Maybe Brigett needs to tell the truth to the authorities & tell em what she knows that is still going on there. But when you call working with children "taking care of someone elses BRATS", you have a problem as well! She chose that job! Mr.Tipps is the one that started this again, blame/Thank him. My family & I HAVE moved on. My daughter is doing wonderfully @ her new placement..your friend,Brigett will be very lucky if a civial suite doesn't come of this.So you might want to THINK before you speak.

Posted by: ardmoregirl Location: ardmore on Jul 22, 2008 at 08:19 PM
You people in Ardmore need to go on with your miserable lives and leave my friend alone. She did her best to take care of your brats at the daycare. And the people at the daycare are twofaced anyway for not standing by her. There's been plenty of things they have done wrong and should be held responsible for too. Those people in that church are not perfect! And yes, she does deserve an apology from the people who falsely accused her of abusing that child, especially from the child and her mother.

Posted by: Reva50 Location: Ardmore on Jul 22, 2008 at 07:09 PM
The child abuser is waiting for an apology from her victim? Stunning! Absolutely stunning! Since I agreed to certain conditions to use this comment board, I can't put into print what kind "apology" she would be getting from me if I were this child's mother.

Posted by: C.I.D. Location: Mt. Lake on Jul 22, 2008 at 04:50 PM
Let god judge this women, and as for apology, the child, the parents and the church need one from this women. Her behavior has made life hard for these people.

Posted by: Ardmoreite Location: Ardmore on Jul 22, 2008 at 04:47 PM
If the church daycare chose to hire this person, there must not be a whole lot of so-called "God's People" in that church. Is the preacher there still having the elderly sign over their homes and money to the church before they pass on?

Posted by: Christi Location: Ardmore on Jul 22, 2008 at 01:23 PM
When you pay a daycare facility to take care of your child....thats what you expect, for your children to be taken care of! Its very inappropriate for the way Bridgett discipled this little girl. Im not saying im a saint....but for one thing...if I choose to treat my child like that.....its MY child, you do not nor do you EVER treat SOMEONE elses child like that. How would Bridgett like it, if we did that to one of her 2 kids?????? Im sure she would have done the same thing as the mother of the child did.!!! She would have gone to the authorities and done all that she could do. Brigett has no business EVER working in a daycare again.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Spankyour kids! on Jul 22, 2008 at 01:21 PM
You sound like a bunch of time out parents.You can't tell me you have never gotten your feathers ruffled by your 2 yr old. If you don't correct them at an early age they will grow up and be aweful! We weren't there we don't know the full story, stop jumping to conclusions. That's what is wrong with kids now days, to many people not correcting them and letting them run all over the place.

Posted by: someone who knows Location: oklahoma on Jul 22, 2008 at 01:13 PM
"Inappropriate" behavior isn't a crime. Have you seen some of the (lack) of clothes some choose to wear in public? It is inappropriate - still not illegal. Or how about the cussing that goes on in public places... inappropriate - not illegal. We want it to be - but it isn't. Well, I would like for it to be. Pray about this - and move on. I know for a fact this woman will never work at a child care center again, and she will have a permanent record with the DHS.

Posted by: Shonda Location: Ingle on Jul 22, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Let me tell you something "anonymous"! You sure have alot to say but are to scared to say who you are....WHATEVER!! Your exactly right...YOU can do it to YOUR own child, that is YOUR business...BUT that was MY child and NO ONE WILL TREAT HER LIKE THAT so, I turned it over to the authorities! I would do it all over again too!!! I can at least tell my child that I did all I could do for her...CAN YOU SAY THAT? As far as slandering the daycare...I did not!! But you will never convince me that certain people in that center did not know, that Brigett's method of discipline was not okay!! She had SEVERAL complaints against her!! That is why one of them were finally vidoed it! If you want proof of that go to DHS and request to see the investigation..ITS PUBLIC RECORD! Believe what you want--your just upset cause your friend got caught!

Posted by: anonymous Location: ardmore on Jul 22, 2008 at 11:48 AM
The daycare worker did not do anything CRIMINAL, let us remember that. The mother slandered the daycare and the worker all over the internet BEFORE any chance for the worker to prove/disprove evidence. I agree, she shouldn't work in a daycare setting again, but I doubt if she wants too. What she did was wrong but not something that if a cop saw you do to yoru child in public would cause him/her to arrest you, she grabbed the child by the face and yelled at her, I ask all you saints of parents if you have never yelled at your child or grabbed their face for their attention. Yes, this is inappropriate for a daycare setting and she doesn't work there anymore but doesn't mean that it's criminal, for goodness sakes, if it was criminal then parents couldn't do ANY disciplining of their children. She lost her temper, it's been resolved, let's move on.

Posted by: mother of infant son Location: North Carolina on Jul 22, 2008 at 10:47 AM
I for one dont think that family of the abused child should owe her and apology of any kind...she needs to be apologizing to the family and the child. If any one of us in public had done that to our child, the cops would have arrested us and taken the kids to DHS. Why should it be ok for a CHILDCARE WORKER to do this to a child? Where is the law in this? What is this world coming to? I am almost ashamed to say that I am from this town.

Posted by: C.I.D. Location: Mt. Lake on Jul 22, 2008 at 10:17 AM
It's so sad to see this lady, who abused my little 2 yr. old niece get off. Now she is waitin for a apology? Maybe should could call God and he'll give her one. I hope and pray this lady never works in a daycare. It's very scary to know she could do this again.

Posted by: ardmore Location: ardmore on Jul 22, 2008 at 08:59 AM
The daycare is not still being investigated. They have closed the case and did so abotu a month ago. DHS is SLOW SLOW SLOW, perhaps because they have as hortage of workers.

Posted by: mom of 4 Location: ardmore on Jul 21, 2008 at 06:32 PM
It was not Brigetts job to discipline this 2 yr old child in the manner in which she did! Its one thing to push your red neck discipline techniques off on your own child..it another thing to treat someone elses child in such a manner. Brigetts home needs to be investigated for her 2 childrens sake!! The mother needs to file charges on the church for hiring an idiot. I agree with Emily Redman also, the mother did exactly what she was suppost to do as a mother...she was provided with a video & felt that her child had been mistreated & she took it to the authorities--instead of taking action into her own hands--at this point I am sure she wishes she had taken care of it herself! Also, yall are forgetting that the daycare is still under investigation by DHS and child welfare..there must be something going on there or those agencies would have moved on by now..think about it.!! AND, no it does not make you a bad mother if you have to work outside the home..now days it takes 2 incomes.

Posted by: SOSU Student Location: Durant on Jul 21, 2008 at 05:48 PM
DURANT, Okla. – Three individuals with Durant and Southeastern Oklahoma State University ties recently graduated from the Leadership Oklahoma Class (XXI). Among the graduating class were Southeastern President Dr. Michael D. Turner, Oklahoma District Attorney of Oklahoma (19th District) Emily Redman (a SOSU graduate), and Southeastern Vice President for Student Affairs Sharon Robinson. I found this article at the SOSU website. Maybe I should have gone to ECU with all the dopers and idiot DA's associated with Southeastern!

Posted by: Republican in Ardmore Location: Ardmore on Jul 21, 2008 at 05:17 PM
I bet all the child abusers and molesters love Emily Redman in Carter and Bryan county now! NO child is safe in Bryan or Carter County as long as Emily Redman is DA!

Posted by: Thumblelina Location: Anywhere on Jul 21, 2008 at 04:24 PM
To: Dusty Rowe, the correct wording of the cliche is "leave no stone unturned" not uncovered. What a dope!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 21, 2008 at 03:59 PM
Scott and Law Dawg...............Please read the basic facts of the story before you comment. The "Bryan" (not Carter) County District Attorney reviewed the case for a decision on charges.

Posted by: SE Location: Bryan on Jul 21, 2008 at 03:15 PM
I don't have to see the video, all I need to know is that it was "inappropriate" and she was working in a daycare. There for charges need to be pressed. She took the responsibility of taking care of other people's children-key word "other people", not her own child to dicipline as she feels appropriate.

Posted by: glad not be live there anymore on Jul 21, 2008 at 11:15 AM
I wonder if the daycare worker would have have shakin emmays son if she would have found any thing against the law, I sure hope when elections come up that the people see how wothless she is and gets her out of durant.

Posted by: ardmore Location: ardmore on Jul 21, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Okay people, just because there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute doesn't mean that it wasn't wrong. The worker is not working there anymore. Kiddie Kollege is a fantastic daycare. As for it being a good old boy conspiracy, craig ladd did the right thing by removing his office from the case, his secretary's daughter worked there during the incident. I"m with Mom of 4, I would have to see the video myself to decide but let's not knock the whole daycare because of one bad seed. The daycare has moved on and has wonderful teachers. And for all of you of you moms out there who stay at home, wonderful, good for you but it doesn't make me a bad parent because I work. I have to work to provide for my family. I'm glad that you don't have to but don't judge me and my family because I'm a mom who works, kids thrive from both environments.

Posted by: mother and grandmother Location: Ardmore on Jul 21, 2008 at 10:37 AM
How many of you people have seen the video? I say until you see the video you have nothing to say. And grabbing a child's face and getting their attention is not abuse. Have any of you so called mothers not ever done that?

Posted by: Another Mom of 4 Location: Oklahoma on Jul 21, 2008 at 09:09 AM
I would have to see the video before deciding for myself.

Posted by: SE Location: Bryan on Jul 20, 2008 at 01:29 PM
I would press charges if my teenager was treated this way by someone, much less a two year old child being treated this way. They say no criminal intent, no harm, so you can't find SOMETHING to charge her with, BS. Get your law books out and look! Don't just let her off scott free!

Posted by: j Location: ardmore on Jul 20, 2008 at 01:13 PM
it's a great time to be a criminal in carter county these days, it seems like everyone is getting away with hardly a slap on the wrist, be it for robbing grandys at gunpoint, beating kids at A CHURCH DAYCARE, drugs, 17 year olds breaking into houses and stealing panties, and whatever else plagues our society. i was pulled over for speeding in lone grove about a month ago (8 mph over), and a tag agent's error showed in the system that i had an invalid tag. i nearly had the book thrown at me, even though all my stuff was legal, except for the speeding. what is wrong with people these days???

Posted by: another mom of 3 Location: ardmore on Jul 19, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Bridget Anthony needs to be charged so she doesnt work in anymore daycares!!

Posted by: Amy Location: Durant on Jul 19, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Leave it to Emily Redman, to do no justice!!!!

Posted by: Joey Belladonna Location: Ardmore on Jul 19, 2008 at 09:14 PM
Why dont someone just grab that daycare worker by their face and punk them out? Simple enough

Posted by: mamma 2 3 babes Location: fannin on Jul 19, 2008 at 08:36 PM
let her grab my 2 year old by the face and yell and i well show her what criminal intent is and bad behavior.

Posted by: scott Location: ardmore on Jul 19, 2008 at 01:26 PM
we live in ardmore where justice may or may not be in touch with what should have happened. The sentence of nothing doesnt suprise me coming from a court system that isnt all that fair to each and every great citizen of carter county. Question? If a judge can issue crazy sentences that dont match the crime than a district attorney can take the same lead and not follow through with appropriate charges. Its a wonder that the good ole boy syndrome still is prevelent in Carter County in this day and age - but lets face it you cant run for office without the blessings from the old rich groupies from ardmore. We will have to wait till all them old widgets are too senial or are even dead before we can hope to see a change.

Posted by: Reva50 Location: Ardmore on Jul 19, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Unfortunately this seems to be par for the course - I've seen many people in Ardmore get away with child abuse before. Not a good town for children to live in.

Posted by: Bryan Co. DA at it again Location: Durant on Jul 19, 2008 at 12:24 PM
This DA office is known for not dealing with child abusers. Unless the child is killed they will not press charges and then it is questionable. I say lets vote the whole team out and vote in qualified individuals that will prosecute child abusers, drug dealers, and thiefs. Why would the Ardmore DA not prosecute? Was this DA friends with the daycare owner? Was this DA and Emily best friends and covering for each other?

Posted by: kelly on Jul 19, 2008 at 09:56 AM
i think it being a "prominent local daycare operated by a church"had more to do with this decision than the actions..the D.A. wouldn`t want to upset prominent church people in any way

Posted by: Fozzy Location: Ardmore on Jul 19, 2008 at 08:09 AM
Moral of the story? If you want your children raised to your standards... YOU raise them! What a novel idea.

Posted by: nunya Location: ardmore on Jul 19, 2008 at 02:33 AM
U N B E L I E V A B L E...that is about all I can say! Besides BS!

Posted by: go granny go Location: over here on Jul 19, 2008 at 01:00 AM
ummm...like wasn't the video on myspace? the church lady could surf myspace and find it. Nothing mentioned of shaking, only yelling at a brat.

Posted by: LawDawg Location: Ardmore on Jul 19, 2008 at 12:13 AM
I am ashamed of the DA's office......"Grabbing a two-year old by the face and yelling at her is simply not appropriate, especially in a daycare setting…” This is a direct quote!!!!!!! I think an eye for an eye. Let the mom get a hold of the suspect. I am just ashamed...This shows what kind of DA's we have in this area...ASHAMED

Posted by: grandma Location: area on Jul 18, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Something more should be done about this person. This is very bad.

Posted by: Mother of four Location: Madill on Jul 18, 2008 at 10:56 PM
This is bull!!! I guess we can all shake our children and mistreat them in this way and it isn't criminal unless we leave marks! What an idiot!

Posted by: disgusted Location: oklahoma on Jul 18, 2008 at 08:33 PM
Emily Redman did not "find" criminal intent when a piece of trash broke into my friend's mom's home and murdered her and then burned her and her pets. I guess she doesn't "see" very well. Put the video on you tube.

Posted by: ARDMORE MOTHER OF 3 Location: ARDMORE on Jul 18, 2008 at 07:42 PM
I THINK THE MOTHER SHOULD PRESS CHARGES!! THIS IS JUST STUPID!! MY GOD IF SHE'S SOOO INNOCENT THAN LET HER HAVE HER JOB BACK AT THAT DAYCARE!! I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD MATTER IF SHE DIDN'T HARM THE CHILD. THERE WAS EVIDENCE THAT VIDEO WHICH WE'D ALL LIKE TO SEE. WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU F N PEOPLE NEED!! I MEAN SHE EVEN SAID THAT SHE WOULD DICIPLINE A CHILD IN THE MANNER THAT THIS WOMEN DID. THAN WHY CAN'T SHE BE PENTILIZED FOR THAT?????????

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